CHANDRASEKRA'S MOONSHINE
 
Chandrasekra das, an Iskcon GBC/ Deputy GBC, & BS for the GBC in Hongkong/Mainland China.

Chandrasekara das (Cd) writes:

Understanding the confusion and distress this can cause I wanted to put something to paper that can help such devotees navigate through these situations with the least amount of complication possible.

 

BIF writes:

Your navigational system was manufactured, installed and operated by the same mariners who have shipwrecked Prabhupada's ISKCON.  And, like you, they all claim to be admirals when they are nothing more than buccaneers, playing with their sextants.

 

Cd:

Throughout the scriptures we learn that one must accept a spiritual master and receive initiation from them if we are to achieve spiritual perfection.

 

BIF:

Surely, by spiritual master you don't mean those horny devils tumbling off the ISKCON assembly line? A process that you yourself are aspiring to. Nor do we blame you.  If you were to die now and pass on to GBC loka, the best you could expect is to end up in a corral, waiting for a GBC branded bull to show up. On the other hand, if you were processed, you could do the bull yourself, just as you are practicing here.

 

Cd:

As there are different grades of devotees, with different levels of purity and Krishna Consciousness, there are also different levels of spiritual masters with different levels of purity and Krishna Consciousness.

 

Srila Prabhupada explains further “A person who is liberated acharya and guru cannot commit any mistake, but there are persons who are less qualified or not liberated, but can still act as guru and acharya by strictly following the disciplic succession.” (Letter, 26 April, 1968)

 

BIF:

Chandrasekara pr., try to understand..the process of proselytism must be pure if it is to carry the weight of parampara. We are concerned with the buggery of disciples, the use of poison, the abuse of children, fraud, embezzlement, acquiring monies under false pretenses, tax fraud, etc., etc., etc., and you are here talking about 'levels of spiritual masters' and 'different levels of purity'.  Quit the bull.  These guys are charlatans, protected bv a cabal, and you have become their mouthpiece. If you want to know what they are 'strictly following', you will need to get down on all fours and put your nose where they are putting theirs. 

 

Cd:

2) those who are not yet so qualified but who by dint of strictly following their liberated spiritual master and the revealed scriptures are qualified to serve as spiritual masters.  

 

BIF:

Srila Prabhupada never did these dirty things.  Where in the scriptures can we read about spiritual masters behaving worse than animals? Even the demons in the sastras cannot compete with the creepy activities of these GBC conjured gurus.  In fact, although iskcon preachers are quick to raise themselves above all other isms, there is not a single mainstream religion on the planet that, even after being exposed, will shield their frauds and perverts like current iskcon....as you are doing here. In GBC iskcon, a guru may fondle his disciple's genitals, put his hand back in his bead bag, and still be worshipped as the 'escelleistical face of Krsna', only because sycophants like you use sastra as a goad to 'help' victims 'navigate' back to the gbc.

 

Cd:

We have understood there are different levels of gurus. A disciple may wonder if the devotional results achieved from surrendering to them are of equal merit. In answer to this we would say that as long as both guru and disciple are properly following guru, sadhu and sastra, then the results achieved will be of equal merit.

 

BIF:

So what you are saying above, is that thousands, no, millions of bhaktas through the years, have achieved no 'devotional results' because they surrendered to a gbc recommended and rubber stamped guru, who, in fact, was not following guru, sadhu and sastra. So whose fault is this, and how many times has this fault been repeated? The question is not whether the gbc system works or not...it is NOT working.  NEVER has. How long must this madness persist before we accept the truth. When can we expect ISKCON to be returned to the shelter of  Sri Krsna's mighty General, His Divine Grace, A. C. Bhaktivedanta Swami?   

 

Cd:

Srila Prabhupada states the following in this regard. “When one is advanced in devotional service, it is natural that many persons will come to the devotee for becoming his disciples, and will offer him some material gains. So if a person becomes attracted to the increased number of disciples and the material conveniences offered by the disciples, and forgets his duty of as a bona fide spiritual master, that is another disturbance in the growth of the plant of devotional service”. (TLC, ml:namespace prefix = st1 />Ch. 1, 1st ed., pg. 28)

 

BIF:

Bhakti Caru, Jayapataka, Tamal Krsna (late), Radanatha, et al., all these older iskcon/gbc 'gurus', are multi millionaires. All of them have used the caveat above (as you are doing) to subtly blame disciples for the fall down of gurus endorsed by them. However, it is not the disciples that romp around the world like dogs on heat, showering their realizations like confetti while ripping off monies and sexual favors in the guise of gurus. 

 

“The spiritual master should study the disciple’s inquisitiveness for no less than six months or a year. A spiritual master should not be very anxious to accept a disciple because of his material opulences”… “This example indicates that a spiritual master or leader should not be proud of his position”. (Cc Madhya 22.330)

 

BIF:

It is obvious that you have studied the 'guru section' very closely in the belief that you will be entering that position shortly, and, given the way your sampradaya gurus tumble like skittles, you may jump through the career hoops soon enough. Nonetheless, your sentiments will evolve with time as you realize that the initial concept for iskcon has become secondary to its survival....It's every man for himself and God for the lot. That, dear Chandrasekara pr., is the unwritten law of gbc iskcon. 

 

Cd"

However, if one increases the number of disciples simply for some false prestige or false honor, he will surely fall down in the matter of executing Krishna Consciousness.” (Nectar of Devotion Ch 7)

 

BIF:

This caveat, although used excessively by gbc administrators to explain away accountability, is never applied in reality. The accumilitation through expansion necessity holds priority over all other iskson policies.  Badam bhanga.

 

Cd:

On the one hand they need to be careful of accepting too many disciples and accepting them too easily. On the other hand they need to be careful of their motive in accepting disciples generally. As Srila Prabhupada states above, ‘accepting too many disciples without sufficient spiritual power’ and ‘accepting disciples in order to increase one’s false prestige’ lead to one falling from the strict path of Krishna consciousness.

 

BIF:

Far too much emphasis is placed on iskcon's guru production business, an industry which, to this point, has proved an incredible loss.  Srila Prabhupada built a house in which we all could live amicably and in Krsna consciousness, but there was an unchecked and uninvestigated predatory takeover during, and immediately after, the disappearance of His Divine Grace. What iskcon has now, is a legacy of contamination that will claim even the most sincere. Far too many have acknowledged this and left, seeking sanctuary elsewhere and against their wishes.

 

Cd:

1) Devotees, who although devotees, were just not properly situated and/or qualified to be gurus to begin with but somehow become gurus. Latter on, however, it becomes apparent that such persons were simply not qualified to serve in that position.

BIF:

They do not 'somehow become gurus'! We all know that they are rubber stamped by the gbc. The question here prabhu, is whether you, when given a rubber stamp, will have the divine vision to differentiate between predator and priest, and the certainty to declare it in the assembly of your seniors? If you have ANY problem with this question, forget all your sastric quotes; your own purity will be contaminated by complicity, and you go down as well.  Wrapped in the tentacles of its own ego, this is where gbc iskcon sits, in the quagmire of guru manufacture.

In the service of Srila Prabhupada

BIF