7th May 2015

HARE KHRISTIAN


“The tragedy of a liar is not that others stop believing him but that he starts believing himself.”


INTRO:
The ISKCON- Hare Krishna (I-HK) founder, AC. De was adamant his cult was NOT Hindu. He publicized his disclaimer in spite of citing as attestation a list of Hindu god-men (all the way back to blue-god Krishna.) So then, if I-HK is not Hindu, where did it originate? An educated opinion would be ... Christian evangelism. However I-HK credo, if not its ideology, did formulate in India. As such the product is perceived as Indian. Yet, Disneyfied and evangelical as it is, the I-HK cult does misrepresent Hinduism and the Hindu ethos. Ergo an analysis is necessary, and from a retrospective vantage.

1.
Butter-oil, blankets, canned food, energy cereals, powdered milk, free education, church gatherings, scholarships, galas and grand balls, Christmas presents from missionary Santa, Sunday School summer vacations, fetes and funding, are only a few of the incentives offered by Christian missions in India. Cultification of Indians was / is carried out financially, methodically, psychologically, pointedly, and with dogged persistence. But let us not get ahead of ourselves. Evangelical zeal by Christian missionaries to effect conversions is also common to unHindu-like I-HK. Still, it is not enough to disrobe a white Christian hiding in saffron, or give the cult a bad name and shoot it. So we need retrospection and introspection to uncover ISKCON in calotte.

2.
Missionary hand-outs in British Raj India did obscure realities, i.e. armies of priests nuns and multitudes of Christian doorknockers being fed and paid for by working-class Indians ... already bleeding from imperial looting. It is only with recent revelations by organizations like CIA that we confront the reality of missionary impact on victimized countries. And what it presents is a clear correlation between evangelism and levels of poverty, i.e. higher the population of religious freeloaders higher the percentage of population Below the Poverty Line (BPL.) Simply put ... religious “charities” are parasites: high-profit, tax-free, self-assessing businesses:

“Boliva Christians (C) 100%, BPL 64%. Honduras C 100%, BPL 53%. Panama C 100%, BPL 37%. Venuzula C 98%, BPL 47%. Haiti C 96%, BPL 80%. Equador C 95%, BPL 45%. Mexico C 95%, BPL 40%. Argentina C 94% BPL 44.3%. Rwanda C 93.5%, BPL 60%. East Timor C 93%, BPL 42%. Phillipines C 92.5%, BPL 40%. Guatemala C 90%, BPL 75%. Namibia C 90%, BPL 50%. Columbia C 90%, BPL 55%. El Salvador C 83%, BPL 36.1%. Peru C 83%, BPL 54%. South Africa C 79.7%, BPL 50%. Zambia C 75%, BPL 86%. Zimbabwe C 75%, BPL 70%. Botswana C 71.6%, BPL 47%. Burundi C 67% BPL 68%.” The list goes on.

3.
So what do poverty levels and Christian missions have to do with I-HK origins? Well should you ask. When poverty faces religion, under foreign rule, a native has only four choices ...convert, starve, fight, or grovel. We find the origins of I-HK kissing British butt in the last option. His name was Kedarnath Datta aka. Bhaktivinod Thakur: the cult architect and first of its three-man lineage. Yes, only three, because the fraudulent claim “all the way back to Krishna” published by the second of the three-man lineage, Datta’s son- Bimal Prasad Datta, is now a proven deception (
HERE).

4.
Notably the three I-HK god-men who appointed themselves successors to blue-god Krishna and promoted Chaitanya (born in Bengal five-hundred years ago) as a yellow morph of that blue god... are being challenged by converts who now detect blue+yellow=greenhorn. Apparently the American cult, I-HK don’t know whether Chaitanya was batting for the Kolkata Knight Riders, Rajasthan Royals or Chennai Super Kings. All they ever wanted was Russian dancing girls and a chance to fix the game.

5.
Lest we stray too far from Catholicism’s evangelical influence on the I-HK ape, we hereby present our abstract of judgement: excerpts from memoirs of the cult deviser- Kedarnath Datta; proving ex.delicto:

Note:
Datta’s life, work, and belief (as per his memoirs) was shaped and channelled by Christian missionaries and colonial masters, or his- “Sahebs”.

source:
http://www.krishnapath.org/Library/Goswami-books/Bhaktivinoda-Thakura/Bhaktivinoda_Thakura_Autobiography.pdf

(131) “I had learned discussions with Padre Dal and George Thomson. Thomson Saheb gave instructed me
(sic) on how to become a good speaker.”

(145) "At that time I read many books on the science of God, which was the particular science that effected the removal of anxiety from my heart. When I discussed things with Dvijendranath there was help of Kant, Goethe, Hegel, Swedenborg, Schopenhauer, Hume, Voltaire, and Cousin."  

(148) "There were many discussions with Dal Saheb on the topic of theology. On his advice I was reading the Bible and various other Christian books. Canning Saheb had many books and I studied all [he had] on logic with the missionary associate of Rama Mohan Roy. ...[...]... Somehow, in this fashion, I developed a deep faith in Jesus Christ." 

(185) "I thought the brotherly philosophy taught by Jesus Christ was excellent. The taste [derived from such worship] was [due to the Christian] devotion [to Jesus]. I read all the books written by Theodore Parker and others, and books on Unitarianism I got from Calcutta. Because of [these books] my mind was attracted toward the devotion of Jesus."

(187) "I would have much deliberation and conversation with Dal Saheb and with other missionaries, and in comparison to the Brahmo dharma the Christian dharma was far superior".


6.
Datta’s transition from colonial servant to Gaudiya “acharya” had no semblance to ‘guruism’ as practiced by his current successors, I-HK. Datta’s memoir confirms what all Hindus have understood for eons, i.e. the guru is an altruistic teacher.... NOT GOD. Here below we post his casual reference to finding a guru, which (in India) is no different to appointing a teacher in any field of learning:

(299) “While I was living in Narail I took diksha along with my wife. I had been searching for a suitable guru for a long time but I did not find one. I was very unhappy [on that account ]. I had done much anxious thinking, and in a dream Prabhu (Bipin Bihari Goswami) diminished my unhappiness.”

(300) “In the dream I got a hint. That day I became happy. One or two days later Gurudeva wrote to me saying, "I will come quickly and give you diksha." Gurudeva came and Diksha was given. My mind was satisfied. From that very day the sinful reaction from meat eating went from my heart and mercy arose [in me] towards the jivas.”

“Failing to fit his spiritual ambitions into colonial Christian politics, Dutta searched out a lesser mission and began weighing the possibilities and probabilities. It was then he opened up correspondence with a Vaisnava writer named Bipin Bihari Goswami (BBG),1850-1919.  After three years of correspondence, both Bhaktivinod and his wife took initiation from BBG. In a letter to his son Lalit Prasad, Bhaktivinod described post initiation thus- "When he came and performed the initiation rituals, I became cheerful. From that day on the sin of meat eating vanished from my heart and I began to feel a little compassion toward all beings." 

7.
With initiation giving him equity and opium creating his fantasies, Datta penned profusely. Within a short time he was displaying “Pure Devotee” symptoms. His writings took on a- “God talks to me” skew common to his genus. He began making public statements contradicting extant historical data. When his source of knowledge was challenged he cited manuscripts that did not exist
* and poppy visions.**

*
 "They do not accept the Caitanya Upanishad: recently there was a discussion on that Upanisad instigated by babaji's party and they had argued that this Upanisad was invented by Srila Bhaktivinoda Thakura (Datta) to promote his cause of the discovery of Navadvipa-dhama. Many of the other opposite parties such as Sri-vaisnavas and Tattva-vadis are now taking advantage of the doubts on the legitimacy of this Upanisad raised by the Gaudiya-vaisnava camp himself."
(...)
"Let us consider why they don't accept Caitanya Upanisad. The evidence that we have is that Srila Bhaktivinoda Thakura published it from a single manuscript. That manuscript has never been seen by no one else but him. This is not an encouraging proof of authenticity of an Upanisad. One should observe that not all Gaudiya-vaisnavas are in Srila Bhaktivinoda Thakura's preceptorial line, some are actually his adversaries regarding many points of tattva and siddhanta. They would not accept an Upanisad revealed by Srila Bhaktivinoda Thakura as bona fide due their countless divergences with him. Can you imagine what the other opposite parties who aren't even Gaudiya-vaisnavas would say of a proof like that?"

** (352) “It was 10 o'clock, and was very dark and cloudy. Across the Ganga, in a northerly direction, I saw a large building flooded with light. I asked Kamal [if he saw it] and he said he had. I asked the clerk and he said, "I did not see anything." (BIF: That’s why he was a clerk.) Because of that I was utterly amazed. In the morning I looked carefully at the place [where I saw the building] from the roof Rani's house,...[...]... That Monday I returned to Krishna Nagar and the following Saturday I went back to Ballaldighi. I saw that wonderful phenomenon in that place again at night, (BIF: After dropping his poppy pellet?) and the next day I went to see the area on foot. Upon inquiring of the elderly people of that place, I was informed that this was the birthplace of Sriman Mahaprabhu.”

8.
While still alive and wielding his colonial cudgel no one confronted Datta. However, soon after his death there was an uproar resulting in rejection of his writings and open repudiation by his guru. This brought into succession number two of the three-man I-HK lineage, Datta’s son- Bimala Prasad Datta, aka. Bhaktisiddhanta Saraswati (BS,) founder of the Bagh Bazaar Mutt at Ultadanga, Bengal. (BIF: To which this writer’s grandmother was a donor).

9.
Contrary to misinformation posted on sites like Wikepedia ... no one initiated BS into the Vaisnava sect. His father initiated his brother (Lalita Prasad Datta) but refused to initiate BS (read our links section- “True History of Bhaktisiddhanta”.) Furthermore his dead father’s ill repute did not inspire the respect of sect elders. So he was never initiated...and certainly not by Gaurakishora Das Babaji (as claimed by I-HK). BS sat in front of a mirror and took the liberty of giving himself all the titles he needed.

"What a buffoon Tripurari continues to be! I answered all these stupid claims years ago. There is no such thing as a siksa-parampara. It was invented to hide the fact that Bhaktisiddhanta (BS) never got real initiation into the Caitanya Vaisnava tradition. Since he had no guru-pranali he had to invent a piece of sheer nonsense like a siksa-parampara."

"There are primarily four families or lineages: Narottama Das's lineages, Nityananda's lineages, Advaita's lineages, and Gadadhara's lineages. There are certainly others, but these are the main ones. If Bhaktisiddhanta had been initiated by Gaurakisora Das Babaji he would have been in the Advaita lineage."

"...Bhaktivinoda (Kedarnath Datta) was rejected by his gurudeva for the apostasy of 'discovering' the 'real' Mayapura across the river from Navadvipa. From a business perspective that was brilliant of Bhaktivinoda. Land was so cheap over there where the poor Muslim farmers lived. In Navadvip land was almost impossible to get. So invent a bunch of baloney and voila! Suddenly you have a cash cow, so to speak, a 'holy' place where you can build temples and extort money from ignorant pilgrims."

- Neal Delmonico

10.
Inheriting his father’s printing press, writings, and tattered reputation, BS concentrated his efforts in clouding the exposé on his father (research-
Janmasthan wars.”) As a bhadralok Bengali he espoused a Christian-influenced condescending attitude towards those “horrible Hindus” and their cultural traditions. He used his press to overrun his beggarly opponents by publishing essays in line with Christian missionary monotheism: reassessing tenets of traditional Hindu customs and beliefs. By power of press he melded his father’s ramblings to temper Gaudiya Vaisnavism with Christianity. And, as linked in paragraph 3, he lied. He traded his Hindu cow for a handful of magic missionary beans so he could grow a “parampara” beanstalk authenticating his line of authority and silencing his father’s detractors.

11.
Christian evangelism in Bengal triggered a reformation of Hindu values and tenets. Nevertheless, it did not last long before re-reformists like Ram Mohan Roy and Swami Vivekananda returned Hinduism to its ‘perennial philosophy’ via the “Bengali renaissance.” Subsequently Datta’s delusions were tossed in the trashcan as a - “fossilized jumble of empty rituals and idolatrous practices”.... where it should have remained. But then came the third “acharya” in I-HK’s three-man-lineage, AC. De (Prabhupada- founder of I-HK).



12.
Contrary to I-HK impropaganda eulogizing ‘His Divine Grace,’ De failed in education, failed in business and was a deadbeat dad. More importantly, he was member of a sect with no respect. He was also disciple to a loose cannon... an uninitiated guru- BS. Furthermore, and in keeping with this essay, he confessed (on record) to his early teacher and mentor being Rev. William Spencer Urquhart: a Catholic theist hand-picked to indoctrinate subjects of the Raj. Yet another Christian missionary “saheb” whose tenets were adopted as unequivocal truths compounding the three-man concoction that is I-HK.

13.
With a failed retail business behind him, a loveless family and all roads leading nowhere, De was destitute. He ended up at the holy beggar’s last stop- Vrindavan. What he did have were the (debunked) manuscripts of his guru’s father and... Bengalogy: the Gaudiya Vaisnav right to ‘talk to god’ while using opium, snorting snuff, and distorting reality. De saw an opportunity to survive and clutched it.

14.
Bent over the unpublished manuscripts given him by his guru, De remembered BS’ last instruction- “If you get some money print books.” But he knew what every beggar in his sect knew... it was going nowhere quick. For a hobo to raise money and print large volumes of literature promoting a sect-in-the-sewer is a Barmecide feast. So desperate-De returned to the Datta-Christian palette. He blended blue-god Krishna with yellow-god Chaitanya and came up with American greenbacks. Off to America he went with a begged-for passage on an Indian steamship.

15.
In the land of “In God We Trust” De declared Kedarnath Dutta- The Father, Bimal Prasad Dutta- The Son, and himself, Prabhupada De- The Holy Ghost. He told young Americans, Yahhoodis and Europeans that his three-man lineage had descended a magic beanstalk called the “disciplic succession.” He informed his listeners that god was hiding at the top of the beanstalk in an Indian village having ‘amorous pastimes’ with minors. That holy village had no police, no courthouse, and no Child Protection Services ... A virtual paedophile paradise. Needless to say, his timing was good. The young hippies, high on anything and disgruntled with the status quo, were on their knees before anyone could say- “Hare Khristian!”

16.
We present below a few quotes from international forums corroborating the analysis presented. Hastily we add, not all posters are Hindu. Many faringis heretofore converted by De have made close studies of the cult in motion. They are more aware of the Khristian influence than any passing Hindu.

Jesus praised by ISKON founder  
ISKON founder: Jesus was an empowered incarnation of Krishna

http://krishna.org/you-are-not-eternally-conditioned-you-are-eternally-liberated/

Prabhupada (AC. De): Yes, Lord Jesus was jiva-tattva. He is not Visnu tattva. When a jiva-tattva becomes specifically empowered by the Lord, he is called saktyavesa avatara. Lord Buddha and Lord Jesus Christ were in this group of saktyavesa avatara.. But they were not in conditioned state when they appeared; they came to teach here.
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ISKON founder: Jesus is a spiritual master, the bible is the book of a spiritual master, one can find perfection through Jesus

His Divine Grace A. C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada, Founder Acarya of ISKCON: 

Girl devotee: Is Jesus in the parampara?
Prabhupada: He says, “there is God. I am son of God”. That is parampara.
(Bhagavad gita Lectures 1975)
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Tamal Krishna: Can a Christian in this age, without a Spiritual Master, but by reading the Bible, and following Jesus’s words, reach the…
Prabhupada: When you read the Bible, you follow the Spiritual Master. How can you say without? As soon as you read the Bible, that means you are following the instruction of Lord Jesus Christ. That means that you are following the Spiritual Master.
Tamal Krishna: I was referring to a living Spiritual Master.
Prabhupada: Spiritual Master is not question of…Spiritual Master is eternal…[…] As you say that “by reading bible”, when you read Bible that means you are following the Spiritual Master represented by some priest or some clergyman in the line of Lord Jesus Christ.
(Morning Walk, Seattle, 2.10.68.)
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Prabhupada: Actually, one who is guided by Jesus will certainly get liberation.
(Perfect Questions, Perfect Answers, chapter 9)
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Prabhupada: “This is called Guru parampara, disciplic succession.This is our process. We are getting knowledge from Krsna, the most perfect. Or you get knowledge from Jesus Christ, that is also perfect, because source is perfect.”
(Conversation, Germany 19.6.74)
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Prabhupada: “You must follow one acarya, like Christians, they follow Christ, acarya. […] You must follow some acarya … Evam parampara praptam.”
(Room Conversation, Melbourne, May 20th, 1975)
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ISKON founder admits to being a follower of Christ
“Following Jesus Christ”
https://prabhupadavani.org/main/AFP/Conversations/066.html

Tamala Krsna: Well, he quotes, “And then shall appear the sign of the son of man in heaven, and then shall all the tribes of earth mourn and they shall see the son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.” In other words… “And shall he send…” There is so many statements in the Bible to allude that Christ will come again.
Prabhupada: What is the harm if he comes again?
Tamala Krsna:
Practically that is the whole basis of the Christians’ faith is they are awaiting the day when Christ will come.
Prabhupada:
For the time being, you follow what he has said. Rather, what is the use of waiting for him?
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BIF: The result, today, is a dysfunctional DNA issue by the Datta progenitus. Here are just two scions of Khristianism in full voice:

1)
Source:
http://iskconnews.org/jesus-the-vaishnavas-and-the-spirit-of-understanding,1375/
Belief in Vaisnavism and Christianity not contradictory.
Jesus, the Vaisnavas, and the Spirit of Understanding. 
“You know, I have never returned my Sunday School membership card or renounced Christianity. I still have my baptism certificate which, I understand, is still valid until you hand it back to the vicar asking to be ‘unbaptised.’ So that must mean I am still a Christian musn’t it? Just one with a slightly peculiar understanding of Jesus. 
Jesus Christ is very important for me, and I would like to think that I understand him slightly better now – and appreciate his sacrifice more – than I ever did before.
You see, you don’t have to not believe in Jesus in order to be a Vaishnava; and you don’t have to wish ill towards Christians or anyone else.”

2)
PADA (aada pada kon pada prabhupada ka BoBo pada):
This next Hare Khristian is a
khati Western Hindu or “Windu” who calls himself PADA (American Tim Leech,) aka. St. Timmy in the trailer, aka. akshaya patra BoBo from Berkeley. He is a case study result of Dutta’s Hare Khristian experiment. Every Christian holiday BoBo goes off on a Jesus-terrorist tangent. His postings are punctuated with Prabhupada (De) said Jesus said BoBo is St. Timmy in the trailer park. Here is just a handful of excerpts:


“Yes, Srila Prabhupada says that "Jesus is my brother" "Jesus is our guru" ...."Jesus is still accepting the sins even today" "Jesus is shaktyavesha" and so many similar things.... Actually the Christians are the largest religion because everyone unites to promote their acharya.... We should learn from them and humbly be trying to do that too. ...THANK YOU JESUS
..... we must offer our respectful obesiances to our inaugural guru, Lord Jesus......without the teachings of Jesus there would be no culture here in the West.....Srila Prabhupada himself says that Jesus is our guru.....Because of Jesus we have had a unique view..... the guru is like Jesus.... Since we are anchored in the idea that the guru is like Jesus,.....that the guru is like Jesus, a de facto servant of Radha,....So Jesus has helped save us.... thanks to the teachings we already had from Jesus....should be worshipped on a vyasasana like Jesus.....told Ramesvara to put his Jesus-like worship seat back..... Tamal,

and Hansadutta worship as Jesus-like gurus...Jesus has to be suspended.....made any sense to us due to the mercy of Jesus....I know that Jesus is not a crook......as a guru who is worshipped like Jesus, or more than Jesus.....and this is what Jesus is attracted to?....Thank you Jesus!....any town
 where Jesus is the guru knows better than this....vote in the next Jesus?....Oh swell, you are Jesus, but if you refuse to be voted by us, as Jesus.... but thanks to Jesus, this never made any sense to us....thanks to Jesus, no one could tell us...  Nah, and thanks to Jesus we knew this when we were five years old....must be worshipped like Jesus....people like Jesus never do this, therefore he is not like Jesus..... Well, thanks to Jesus we never make this mistake....is what servants of Radha and/or Jesus would do.... sit in the vyasasana seat and be worshipped like Jesus...Nah, and thanks to Jesus we knew this was wrong......Yep he is a guru, he is like Jesus to these idiots....Dear Lord Jesus, thanks so much for saving me....Thank you Jesus.....able to absorb sins, like Jesus,.... Prabhupada taught exactly what Jesus taught,...Srila Prabhupada confirmed what Jesus taught.... Thank you Jesus, and thanks for sending us Srila Prabhupada...ISKCON should be the same as the Christian conception of Christ - which is that he should be the one and only Diksa Guru. Jai!,,,,PADA: And people complain, well PADA always talks about Jesus, well it seems that our talking has been spreading around to the ISKCON leaders! ys pd]....Srila Prabhupada says that Jesus is still absorbing the sins of his followers today,..who are thus like Jesus....who is like Jesus..they are not on that level...they are merely meant to offer baptism on behalf...act like another Jesus or acharya?.... Therefore the Christian priest (ritvik) or ISKCON preacher... just like only Jesus has the potency to do...where is the order for us neophytes to act like Jesus and absorb sins...saying we are bogus to promote Jesus...Jesus is our saviour...you hate Jesus...you hate Christians...your Jesus hating citations. Jesus..O Jesus..O Jesus...Jeeeesus.....Yikes Pilgrim!”
Hmmm .... Okay. Moving on.

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Source: http://www.hindugeopolitics.net/birds-of-a-feather-catholic-iskon-unite-to-convert-yezidis-and-hindus/
Brannon Parker, well known ISKONite in USA
Brannon Parker’s affiliation with ISKON is well known in the United State, he was once associated with many Hindus here, however, his constant begging for air and hotel fairs to travel to Hindu conferences gave him a negative image as a beggar.  He disappeared from the American Hindu scene and eventually reappeared in India. It is not surprising to his former beneficiaries that Brannon Parker has ended up pushing “Hidzianity” in tandem with Mark Pinkham.

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ISKCON also promotes Jesus
It should be no surprise that it is an ISKCONite who is helping Mark Pinkham to achieve his Murgan = Melek Taus / “Hidzianity” goal.  ISKCON’s dogmatic attachment to Krishna and the Gita, and their condemnation of all other paths in Hinduism is well known.  While such a sectarian position is not unique in Hinduism, and does not necessarily remove one from the Hindu fold, ISKCON is unique in that, while they do condemn all other Hindu paths (they usually state they are not Hindus), they very heavily promote Jesus Christ and the Bible as an acceptable means to reach god.   How is it that following a Hindu path not aligned with ISKCON is considered immoral, yet being an adherent of Jesus and the Bible is encouraged? Even the founder of ISKCON, A. C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada, admitted to being a follower of Jesus and promoted Bible reading, yet he condemned all other branches of Hinduism. ISKCON is nothing but another pro-Christ invasion into Hinduism.
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ISKCON FOUNDER CALLED HINDUISM “USELESS, DRIED-UP”
Often Srila Prabhupada would simply deny the existence of a religion called “Hinduism.” He attributed the improper designation to “foreign invaders.” At other times he acknowledged the existence of the faith, but considered it a hopelessly degraded form of the original Sanatana Dharma of the Vedas. In his April, 1967, New York lectures he remarked, “Although posing as great scholars, ascetics, householders and swamis, the so-called followers of the Hindu religion are all useless, dried-up branches of the Vedic religion.” ISKCON, he believed, was the only true exponent of the Vedic faith today. In an interview given for Bhavan’s Journal on June 28, 1976, he said, “India, they have given up the real religious system, Sanatana Dharma. Fictitiously, they have accepted a hodgepodge thing which is called Hinduism. Therefore there is trouble.” – Can it Be That the Hare Krishnas Are Not Hindu? Hinduism Today
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CONCLUSION:

17.
To present a holistic perspective it is necessary to address the current Indian anti-Christian sentiments triggered by conversions (a loss of assets and identity,) vis-a-vis Hare Krishna aping of evangelical Christianity in India.

18.
Missionary D. Ron Watts, located at Hosur in Karnataka along with his American wife, Dorothy is among the most successful Christian (conversion) evangelists in India. They are in India on business visas and funded by their “charities.” Between them they have converted 500,000 Hindus to Christianity in the last five years. Under non-profit charity banners “Global Mission” and “Maranatha International,” they offer young Christians “
Volunteer or Post Christian Medical Mission Trips” to India.” Over 200 of their foot-soldiers have entered India on tourist visas to aid in conversions. It is rumoured that the conversion rate is Rs. 50’000/- per family. ISKCON- Hare Krishna (I-HK) may not be in that league as yet but they are accumulating wealth and expanding rapidly via conversions under charity banners.

source:
http://intellibriefs.blogspot.com.au/2005/05/save-andhra-pradesh-canadian.html

19.
Tactically, I-HK is non-different in modus operandi to Christianity’s past and ongoing conversions in India. With the aid of public media and political endorsement the cult is linking humanitarian aid and free food programs with indoctrination and initiation. Soon, and like the once minority Christian groups who lived peacefully prior to the conversion boom, Gaudiya Vaisnavism will be perceived as a political and financial threat to Hindus.

20.
Hindus are quickly becoming aware I-HK and its tie-up with Christian operations. Yes, we have heard the I-HK propaganda- “They love us.” But that is what priests and nuns also said in times past. Here is an excerpt worth noting:

Inculturation has been a tactic used by Catholics and Christians for centuries, it uses subtle cultural techniques to introduce Christ slowly into the host culture using

its own legends and iconography.  Mark Pinkham and his “International Order of Gnostic Templars” are nothing but a neo-inculturation Catholic agenda.  They not only want to move the “Garden of Eden” and the line of Christ to Sri Lanka, they also want to connect Murgan, Melek Taus and Christ into one super inculturation cult of “Hidzianity”… but the object is always the same, make an inroad for Christianity. In his endeavor, Mark Pinkham and his Templar friends are being aided by the ISKONite Brannon Parker, this match is obviously “made in heaven” since ISKON has a similar motive of pushing pro-Jesus and pro-Bible attitudes onto Hindus in the guise of “Krishna Bhakit”.  This conspiracy of course goes deeper than what has been presented here, Hindus must be vigilant against such inculturation scams.

21.
Evangelists should not be permitted to conflict with or destroy culture in India. In Kerala under Christian priest Vadakkan, Kerala Christians have encroached on traditional tribal lands in Kerala forests. Now Christians priests sent from Kerala are attacking tribals in rural India. Once their missions have expanded financially they use terrorists to whom they supply money and weapons to effect conversions and land grabs:

“Xtian missionaries linked with naxalites. Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2003 19:30:32 -0400 ,Row over MCC-link slur on missionaries, by TAPAS CHAKRABORTY Balmikinagar, 15 June, 2003.) Tension has been brewing here in the serene woods bordering Nepal following police allegations linking the missionaries and converted Oraon tribals with the Maoist Communist Centre. Police detained two priests and questioned them for two hours on May 27, 2003. One priest, was asked by Ramnagar deputy superintendent of police Rajkishore Singh to close his office and leave.”

22.
So what is the difference in agendas; that of the I-HK Windus and their true lineage? The answer is... I-HK is a damn side worse. Here it is, straight from the horse’s mouth. Yes we have posted it before, we are posting it now and we will post it again because it must be made clear:

De
: “Arcye visnau [break] when it will teach military art, with tilaka, soldiers will, Hare Krsna, Hare Krsna, Hare Krsna (laughter) We want that. Marching with military band, Hare Krsna. You maintain this idea. Is it not good? ....[...]... When there will be military march of Krsna conscious soldiers. Anyone who does not believe in Krsna, Blam! (laughter) Yes. The same process as the Mohammedans did, with sword and Koran, we'll have to do that. Do you believe in Krsna or not? No, sir. Blam! Finished. (laughter, Prabhupada laughs)...[...]... What these communists can do? We can do better than them. We can kill many communists like that. (laughter) Then it will be counteraction of communist movement. And you think like that.”  (Morning Walk March 15, 1974, Vrndavana) 
De"It is not that because Mohammed used a sword, we also must use a sword, No ! - we can use a Gun. We will ask -...You like Krishna ?? No -- Booom.. You like Krishna ? No -- Booom . We can use everything for Krishna, we can use the ATOM BOMB FOR KRISHNA !!
De:
 “Arjuna was a great Vaishnava, and he was killing. Bhima was a great Vaishnava, and he was killing. Dhruva Maharaja was a Vaishnava, and he was killing. Parikshit Maharaja was killing. Prahlada Maharaja was killing. Rama was killing. Krishna was killing. Practically speaking, Vaishnavas are killers.” 
De
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Oh, yes. Why not? Kill them."
De: "We have to kill this civilization of mudhas....those who are mudhas, we have to kill them. This is our business. Kill all the mudhas."
De
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"Kill them. Finish. Just like Parasurama did. Kill all them, twenty-one times."
De: "What these communists can do? We can do better than them. We can kill many communists like that."
De: "You will get government...[....].... You turn all the people Krishna conscious, then you become President
De: "If one hears an irresponsible person blaspheme the master and controller of religion, he should block his ears and go away if unable to punish him. But if one is able to kill, then one should by force cut out the blasphemer's tongue and kill the offender."

Thank You for spending time with us.

BIF


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KNOTS in a THREAD

a)
O my my.

http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/ngos-licences-cancelled-annual-returns-foreign-funds-law-violation/1/432480.html
Government cancels licences of around 9,000 NGOs for not filing annual returns

‘Last week, it ordered that funds coming from the US-based Ford Foundation should not be released by any bank to any Indian NGOs without mandatory permission from the Home Ministry.’
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b)
A brief note of thanks:
“I was only involved with Hk,s from 1972 to 1976. I was 18 and looking for answers to this weird world. By chance I met Upendra as he and fellow "devotees" were just establishing the first temple in Melbourne Australia. It was unpretentious and made some sense. Although I could never really come to grips with certain fantasy facts, believing in time i would understand when all was revealed. Ha ha. I only lasted 2 years as a brahmacari in the temple as I couldn't deal with the book distribution zealotry no matter what lies you told. I left with some like minded friends and we lived near the temple as I was still confident about the whole deal.   But 2 years later I stopped my dalliance with the whole shebang for many reasons which basically sapped my teenage youthful belief.  It's nearly 40 years now since I left and bizarrely still have a fascination by the whole Vaishnava deal and  I have read many things which my curiosity wishes to delve into the developments, but this particular site confirms my beliefs that if some say things often enough there will be people who accept it as the real deal. There are so many hidden truths that the site has factually revealed, more than I ever knew, it has made me feel real closure so speak. I thank you for putting into words what my heart has told me for years
Sincerely *********
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c)
A letter from a multi-millionaire I-HK guru’s son:

To the Editor@BIF:
arvinsmail@gmail.com
my dearest papa pita maharaj Bir Krishna Goswami.
I am having trouble getting a hold of my dearest papa pita maharaj Bir
Krishna Goswami.
I am in a jam outside the united states and need a little help from
your enlightenedness in getting in touch with the afore mentioned
holiness of a daddy gi you know as Bir Krishna Goswami. I am in dire
straits. If you can relay the following message to him as soon as
possible I will be so blessed:
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Dear Bir Krishna,
I really don't give a shit who you fucked and I don't give a shit how
important you think your children are or how much you hate and who you
hate and how much you want death for me or anyone else, I just need
the money you niggered from me. I don't give a shit about your cock
sucking step-mother or your crowd of chanting idiots. I don't give a
shit about your pictures. I didn't care to even look for 15 years. I
don't give a shit about your posturing, your pride, your lack of
logic, or your breast sucking life-style. I care about you as much as
you care about me, and I hate you even less. I will be happy to leave
you to your life of illusion. Just fulfill a little something, a need
you created by alienating me as a child from every other family
member, and the general public(with my really weird type name.) Say
it's so and I will simply email you deposit information, make my
inheritance respectable, and that will be the end of it.

Your huggy loving son,

Krishna
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Here is a picture to help identify him.
(Sorry, this link was removed- Editor)

Thanks in advance.
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d)
Editor@BIF writes:

“Karma ... samsara...maha bhagavat…uttma adhakari…good-as-god…topics beyond tangibility rammed into heads that are ghost towns killed by repetitious rituals. Not a single reasonable thought walking down Main Street. You could stand on the Town Hall steps and holler- “God was shot in the heel by a professional hunter who mistook him for Bambi.” No one, not a single voice will yell back- “Shot in the heel by a professional hunter?! Can you draw me a picture?”

Try looking for an artist’s impression of that all important ‘death by accident’ and you will find it practically impossible to recreate…in any medium under any license. What to speak of presenting it forensically in curia. If we are to believe this tall-tale-but-true, then it was Murder One. And because there is no record of trial, we must assume it was justifiable homicide.



To Editor@BIF:
Hi,
You are 100% correct. I searched high and low for an artist’s impression of that “all important death by accident.” Is it any wonder Prabhupada
(De) instructed the matter of Krishna’s death not be discussed? The “accident” was not possible unless the hunter was blind and shooting mind-to-heel guided missiles. I searched the internet for old and new artist impressions and came up with four. None of them, even in surrealism, could depict the “professional hunter’s mistake” or bend his arrow to stick.

Editor@BIF replies:
Great. Now see if you can find an artist’s impression of Krishna and Balarama “jumping off” an 88 mile-high “burning mountain.” Then there’s that missing visual of dairymen (vegetarians?!!) 5000 years ago decapitating and boning a witch 12 miles tall x 8 miles wide before tossing her on the bar-b. And what about the bhakti boner that drops a holy voyeur to his hands and knees to have a mental peek under a copulating colossus?

Dvivida was as powerful as 10,000 elephants...[...].... The gorilla immediately uprooted a big oak tree,.. [...]... he would sometimes pollute the female members of many aristocratic families by forcibly raping them...

O Lordy, a ten-ton gorilla uprooting big oak trees... and rooting little aristocrats. Now that’s bestiality with a bhakti corkscrew.
After reading I-HK baloney no one should pooh-pooh JC’s disciples for drinking water turned to wine and then seeing him walking on it.

Stay light & legit
Editor@BIF
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