31st August 2013
“When people are forced to remain silent when they are being told the most obvious lies, or even worse when they are forced to repeat the lies themselves, they lose once and for all their sense of probity. To assent to obvious lies is to co-operate with evil, and in some small way to become evil oneself. One’s standing to resist anything is thus eroded, and even destroyed. A society of emasculated liars is easy to control.” Theodore Dalrymple.
2. When viewing the cult milieu we are forced to question whether the ISKCON founder's claims- Prabhupada (acBSp): "Everyday, when I sit down here to write these books Krishna personally comes and dictates every word." has any truth to it at all. Also the maha mantra being sold by the cult as the invested energy of Krishna and his underage coquette- Radha (in sound,) to liberate the world, must be questioned, i.e.,... Is Radha / Krishna as impotent as the cult reflects? Or did the dallying duo exist at all? Considering whether Gaudiya ISKCON's claim to being god's direct disciplic successors is fraudulent... other branches of the Vaisnav sect, who endorsed the scam by silence, must be complicit in a devise conceived to cheat, enslave, and exploit. With that possibility in mind... a group of Brajabasis (Vrindavan natives) have resurrected accusations of improprieties and hijack attempts made nearly one hundred years ago against Bhaktivinode Thakur, his son- Bhaktisiddhanta and (now inclusive) ISKCON founder- acBSp..... three godmen of the Gaudiya apoclypse. These accusations were never mentioned by acBSp when diddling young Yankee-doodles into Americanizing his ambitions to world domination. Conversely he presented his three-man Gaudiya lineage as a seminal parampara originating from Gaudiya-god krishna via a link of 108 individuals, 95% of whom are historically untraceable. What he failed to include in his teachings was the true history of the three-man hijack squad.
3. We at BIF have produced pages of print showing...Bhaktivinode Thakur, his son- Bhaktisiddhanta, and his son's disciple- acBSp.... to be cheaters who were not content to shake the pockets of Indians but worked ceaselessly to become international deities, and lied, not only to make slaves but to enshrine themselves as gods on earth by initiating an 'eternal disciplic succession' of frauds. In this post we highlight the 25 points raised by the Vrindavan group...the most senior branch of the bhakti sect. It will show why the 'elders' of this shady belief system view ISKCON Gaudiya Math as the shadiest of all..... shammers and scammers par excellence. Once again, the Brajabasi' of Vrindavan bring under scope the three-man deception, in concert, to establish a fake reality .... ISKCON's authenicity. We deal with the issue in Part Two of this post, entitled- 'Vrindavant-garde.' First we examine a thread on the facebook page- 'Ved,' the Editor of which fights a lonely battle bringing proof to cult fanatics regarding Vedic misinterpretations and deviations by confidence tricksters... like ISKCON and its three-man parampara.
4. Our reason for posting- PART ONE: "RATHER RUNNY" is to burst the foreign ISKCON bubble. We now understand beyond any shadow of a doubt how and why a Ballygunge bakwas, racist, misogynist, narcissist, duplicitous, wanna-be-Jesus-.Muhammad-Krishna-Buddha-Gaudiya-god, duped young Americans into believing that Vedic Hinduism meant acceptance of all things Bhaktivinode / Bhaktisiddhanta / Bhaktividanta. Now, thanks to the VED page, we bring a perspective from everyday Hindus outside cult influence. It spotlights the flimsy and contradictory evidence i.e., Radharani, and the Radha / Krishna duo as an historical fact.
PART ONE: "RATHER RUNNY"
(comments and interjections by BIF)
Sri Krishna’s name is always paired with Radha. In modern time there is no Krishna temple without Radha. Radha is the most important element in the Krishna-worship. And in Vaishnava literature, Radha has even a greater significance than Sri Krishna himself.
...charmed by Maya
>>The majority of the Anti-party criticisms were aimed at Srila A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada and ISKCON. The Gaudiya Math was lumped in here and there. The Anti-party representative took serious objection as regards the preaching mission and siddhanta of Saraswati Thakur and also Bhaktivinode Thakur.<<
BIF: Precisely! This three-man lineage is the genesis and foundation of the ISKCON cult. Bhaktivinode was a cheat and forger. His son, Bhaktisiddhanta (Bs) was a bigger cheat. His brother- Lalita Prasad admitted that Bs invented and included his father's name (and his own) on a parampara list of 108 personalities originating from Gaudiya-god Krishna. Here is an excerpt from our article Cannibaloney:- " But when out father Bhaktivinode Thakur died, I went to my brother and said, ' Who will carry on our father's teachings now that he is gone? You are the oldest' I was working for the government like our father did, while he was doing his spiritual practices and was a scholar. 'You're the one to do it,' I told him. 'How can I do it when I've been rejected by our father and his guru?' was his reply. 'You're smart. Make up a disciplic succession. Who will know?" He did it. When he went to Vrindavan to preach, the babajis there knew he had made it up." And it is exactly what this post is about. First Bhaktivinode Thakur was rejected by his guru and the Vaisnav sect for forging books and lying...then, after his death, his son- Bs took over papa's printing press and continued the lying. When all was revealed after considerable debate between the Gaudiyas and predecessors of the Vrindavan Anti-party, acBSp (a disciple of Bs) took the scam, after the dust had settled, and sold it in America as ISKCON...... gave himself the title of 'Prabhupada'- (The master at whose feet all other masters sit) and added his own name to the tail-end of the parampara list.
>>We have reproduced below the main twenty-five points of objection that the Vrndavana Anti-party makes against our parampara, and respond with our comments. We are doing this because we have been requested to do so by several concerned Vaishnavas who feel that the propaganda of the Vrndavana Anti-party is an intolerable offense to our Guru-parampara.<<
BIF: ISKCON has NO parampara outside the three-man scam. Again.....Bhaktivinode was rejected by his guru Bipin Bihari Goswami for plagiarizing / writing / printing lies to establish his own god-man status. Bipin Bihari never claimed to be part of any parampara. No Vaisnav branch ever claimed division previously. Bs publicly abused his father's ex- guru calling him a cheap imitator (sahajiya) and tobacco smoker. It is why he was rejected by his father and his father's guru (read the red font above.) After his father's death, Bs printed a parampara list showing Jagganatha dasa babaji as his father's guru. Prabhupda (acBSp) took the deception further when he informed his ISKCON followers that Bhaktivinode had rejected Bipin Bihari and accepted Jagganatha das as his guru....Liar! As for the blasphemer and liar Bs, no one wanted to initiate him. His father, Bhaktivinode initiated his brother Lalita Prasad but refused to initiate him. He was advised to approach Gaur Kishore Das babaji for initiation. Gaur Kishore instantly refused him, again and again. Finally Bs claimed Gaur Kishore had initiated him in a dream. He then sat before a mirror and gave himself 'brahman' initiation. There in NO ISKCON parampara, and there never was. Here is more evidence to glue the clues:-
"Ananta Vasudeva, elected as acarya after the death of Bhaktisiddhanta, considering Bipin Bihari's rejection of Bhaktivinod and also the irrational claims made by Bhaktisiddhanta as to both his initiations, came to conclusion that the parampara of Bhaktisiddhanta was not bona fide. After he came to this conclusion, he instructed the gaudiya sannyasis to go home and get married. He then renounced his sannyas and also his initiation from Bhaktisiddhanta Saraswati".
>>Before beginning the main topic of this article we would like to say a few words to clarify our position. Some of our readers may feel that we are speaking too harshly against the Vrndavana Anti-party in this article or specifically against Satyanarayana. If so, we would like to point out that we have not attacked the persons of the Vrndavana Anti-party but only that which we perceive as their offenses and misconceptions. We should also add that it is they that endeavor to find fault in the Divine Succession of Bhaktivinode Thakur, Saraswati Thakur and their followers - it is not we who have sought out our accusers with a view to offend their parampara. It is they who have attacked us, not we who have attacked them.<<
BIF: The Divine Succession of Bhaktivinode Thakur, Saraswati Thakur (add on acBSp) has less potency than tiger's eggs, but it is all ISKCON has. As for- with a view to offend their parampara... albeit there are predecessors in every business, only ISKCON's three-man scam claims parampara directly in line from a blue Gaudiya god; a voyeur of pubescent girls who stripped naked to bathe in a public ghat... in India! Has anyone ever seen anything like it, in India? Okay....Anywhere? These pedophile wet dream litteratures is what attracts predators to ISKCON and ISKCON to India. It is Gaudiya ISKCON's true history and parampara...pedophilia. Our Mother was taught from childhood to wear sari or full saya to bathe in her private bathroom. No Indian girl or woman ever strips naked to bathe in a public place.
>>It is the concerned opinion of many older members of ISKCON that since the disappearance of Srila A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada the leadership in ISKCON has not trained their students in the proper siddhanta and practice of Gaudiya Vaishnavism. It seems that the leaders have also over-stressed the importance of external achievement at any cost, be it one's own sadhana or even the dignity of another Vaishnava, vaishnava-aparadha.<<
BIF: After only four decades since its conception, ISKCON has had a flush of gurus sannyasis and senior members go down the gurgler (43 gurus and counting).... cheats, liars and sexual perverts. ISKCON's short history confirms its true parampara...Does it not? Bhaktividanta Prabhupada did not give a damn who he gave divine status to in his society so long as his books went out with a picture of him front and back, and easy money rolling in... good-as-god. He made a farce of India's religious traditions. Even those members who are now reading this post know better than anyone... they are laboring under a misapprehension. There is NO potency in the fairy-dust sprinkled by the three-man scam. They got young Americans to sell them to the world just as their forefathers sold Jesus cults. BTW: there is no apaRadha. Actually, history tells us, there was never even a Radha.
>>It is also a fact that the Vrndavana Anti-party spokesman and others of their camp have been poorly treated at times by ISKCON leaders and they may naturally bear a grudge against ISKCON and our parampara as a result of their bad experience. It is indeed unfortunate. I can sympathize with their plight to some extent but I cannot tolerate their propaganda against those who are very dear to Krishna. We do not hate the sinner - we hate the sin.<<
BIF: The contention presented by the Vrindavan Anti-party is older than ISKCON. Points raised and interpreted as grudge ... bad experience ... and propaganda against the cult... is blatant ad hominem. It is common practice for cult ethnocentrics to avoid confronting any truth outside the three-man cult fraud. And...we hate the sinner more than the sin. The sin is not active, the sinner is. But then again... cult adherents are really Christian sentimentalists... NOT Hindus born and bred.
>>The following are the twenty-five points of criticism of our parampara by the Vrndavana Anti-party.
[New and uninitiated devotees are cautioned to read the following highly offensive remarks only under the direction of a senior devotee who can ensure they are properly understood.] <<
BIF: This means senior devotees must stand by with cult defibrillators, as they do with avowed militancy, to zapp minds that dare think for themselves.
>>We have divided their statements into two thrusts against our Guru-parampara.
The first thrust is as follows:
There is no parampara in ISKCON and the Gaudiya Math. This is supported by the following eighteen points (1-18):<<
BIF: But everybody who knows, even other Vaisnava branches, know there is NO ISKCON parmapara. The cult's claim that it belongs to the Brahma-Madhva-Gaudiya sampradaya can be easily debunked... Go to any Madhvacarya Mutt and enquire - 1) Do you know what ISKCON is? 2) Is ISKCON part of your lineage? 3) Are you part of the Gaudiya Mutt? 4) Do you acknowledge the teachings of acBSp-Prabhupada... or even know of his existence? From personal experience... followers of Madhvacarya, who know of ISKCON and its history, prefer the Amrikan / Yahudis return to their roots. And we second that.
"He's joined Hare Krishna."
>>1) Only sastra (scripture) is an authority - no human can be so in any circumstance. Even God follows sastra to show the example. Sastra is there to make sure that the independent "self-effulgent" personalities do not appear.<<
BIF: Albeit the sastra (scripture) is deeper than Peter Rabbit, we fully understand need for curbing the self- effulgent epidemic. ISKCON has a three-man parampara, and all three are 'manjaris' or rasa lila babes. And now, every time ISKCON bends over godmen appear... Kamsa copycats, producing illusions from the rear end like confetti.
>>2) Bhagavat-diksa does not exist, there is no logical meaning of bhagavata-diksa.<<
BIF: Bhagavat is a cult term for- fully enlightened beggar. In layman terms it means whenever a bhagavat dreams, god instructs him... whenever he speaks, god speaks through him.... his feces smells of aromatic flowers... and the best way for anyone to profit in this life or the next is to hand over earnings and properties to him. Handing over a young daughter or son will ensure salvation for ten past generations and ten future generations.... but no ex parte guarantee is provided to protect the child's virginity or innocence.
>>3) We can understand Krishna and sastra only through proper diksa-parampara.<<
BIF: One certainly needs someone to clarify how Krishna jumped off an 88 mile high mountain (in Mathura!!) because he believed someone was setting fire to it. Above certain altitudes mountains are bereft of vegetation and covered in snow. Everest is only 29'000 ft.,... just imagine some idiot attempting to torch it. Or how and why he chose to herd 900'000 cows 54 kms a day... find time to play leap-frog with his friends...have sex with the gopis.... kill a demon a day, and still have time to leave his father's mountain of wasting dairy ( 900'000 dairy cows and no refrigerated transport) to steal butter from the neighbors. It certainly takes a rickshaw diksha to explain these gob smacked lilas ...and so much more.
>>4) Only Krsna is self-effulgent - no jiva soul can be, because self-effulgent means in so many words independent.<<
BIF: Gaudiya Krishna, if he did exist, should have got a better biographer. As it is, his chosen Nambudiri scribblers reek high of dope and their own independence. There is a code of literary ethic demanding authors cite their genre prior to publication. Claiming fiction as fact is prosecutable. Further there is a vast gulf of difference between fact and fiction... and fiction within fiction. The Krishna lila money spinners disregarded all ethical guidelines. In the past it passed off as as religious believe-it-or-not. However, on a planet living and breathing hi-tech education and Intel.... abracadabra cannabis induced sanctimony MUST face catechism.... not unlike the Greek gods of Olympus.
Heavy cat credo
>>5) Bhaktisiddhanta Saraswati Thakura Prabhupada is a rebel against the parampara. He disregarded all the proper diksa lines and attempted to establish his own concocted line by picking famous names from the Gaudiya history.<<
BIF: There it is again! A cheated parampara. We also note the clarification- names from the Gaudiya history... because, as we have stated earlier and several times before... the names are not recorded in any literary, historical or government circles. Nowhere are these bhagavats to be found outside Gaudiya ISKCON claims ...claims that include- a gorilla and his aristocracy loving dork.... animals that talk... bogeymen that stalk....idols that walk... and gopi-god poppycock.
>>6) Sampradaya means proper inheritance and this can only be received if one has the proper guru-pranali (diksa line).<<
BIF: Bhaktisiddhanta claimed he was poisoned before dying ... acBSp also claimed that he was poisoned... the ISKCON usurpers then went about raping the next generation. Who gives a crap about Sampradaya? Besides, having a belief system with roots in caveman credo, current cultists are no less liars and sexually deviant than the Nambudiris who changed the genre of Bopadev's fictitious Bhagavat Puran to fact. Which was then further convoluted by ISKCON founder- acBSp, to come off his BBT press as- SriMAD Bhagavatam.
>>7) In the Brhad-Bhagavatamrta, Srila Sanatana Goswami says that this concept of Mahaprabhu and what he came to give, cannot be understood even by Lord Visnu, what to speak about ordinary mortal beings. It cannot be preached or conceived by reading unlimited amount of books. It can only be revealed through proper diksa parampara.<<
BIF: Cannot understand the Vrindavan Anti-party's contention on this because, before Gaudiya Bhaktivinode started writing the Chaitanya biography, the unknown saint was nothing more than another sickly incarnation of god (quite possibly a closet homosexual *) who drowned while having an epileptic fit in the Chilka Lakes. It was the three-man parampara, beginning with Bhaktivinode,** who promoted Caitanya as a half-Radha half-Krishna Gaudiya god by expanding a booklet / pamphlet into (with added page fill by acBSp) the ISKCON bulky nine 'deluxe' volume collection. Even an 'Antya lila' was added long after Chaitanya was dead, which made them a packet of cash in donations. This bloated biography also threw the Vrindavana Anti-party a crust, which they chewed on happily. This author bases his convictions on the fact that he is a born-and-bred Bengali, and can openly say- NO critical review was done on the Chaitanya autobiography pre-ISKCON... by anybody, anywhere.
Nine 'Deluxe' Volumes
* Read our article- Gender Bender Descender.
** acBSp: "Bhaktivinoda Thakura organized this Krsna Caitanya's movement in pure form from Mayapur. He published many books and papers, Sajjana-tosani. When he passed away in 1914, at that time, he entrusted the matter to (his son) Siddhanta Sarasvati Thakura." .... who, in turn, handed Bhaktivinode's (contended, exposed and unsellable) manuscripts to acBSp- who sold it to America as divine gospel. Thereby establishing himself, Bs and Bhaktivinode as bhagavats in eternal disciplic succession from Gaudiya-god Krishna.... And that, dear readers, is ISKCON.
>>8) Guru actually means teacher. The word spiritual master does not give the full, proper idea. Teacher means that he is leading us through every step of raganuga-sadhana. That is the only way the secret flow of Mahaprabhu's line comes down to us.<<
BIF: The babaji club really don't get it. When acBSp took the scam to America he always knew there was no secret flow of Mahaprabhu's line. He wanted to spin a new line with American money, and use the old Chaitanya line as a prototype to cut himself a new Jesus profile. He didn't give two left balls what the babajis thought about his bid for god-dom. He also instructed his dupes to stay clear of all Indian concerns. The only reason ISKCON cultists uploaded this controversy is to show younger dupes how to lift a leg and hit the post.
>>9) We must have an unbroken diksa line, because, through that channel not only are we doing service in this plane but also in the eternal plane . One must have a practical guide along the whole way.<<
BIF: Sure. That makes sense. Otherwise you could end up like Akrura.... taking all day on a chariot, hauled by horses running at the speed of the wind, to reach Vrindavan from Mathura.... a twenty minute cruise by rickshaw, and by a rickshaw wallah who doesn't even have a broken diksha line.
10) Guru must be completely bonafide. This means he must be sabda brahma and parabrahma (according to SB 11.3.21). Sabda brahma means he must be learned and able to explain scriptural truths, and parabrahma means he must have realization of the transcendental plane.
BIF: Tossing aside the technical tumblers, what it simply means is- guru can explain what position Daksha and Asikli used to have 6000 sons and 60 daughters, or how the cow farmers of Vraj hacked into (with sickles?) two-mile thick bones of a dead witch named Putana.... She was twelve miles tall and eight miles wide. Then there's need to explain the story of Indian King Ugrasena who had ten quadrillion soldiers (!!) as personal bodyguards Krishna Book Ch-90... and made sure to keep enough personal servants... four billion (?!!). Ask any Gaudiya / Chaitanya guru.. the world had gazillions of people before the goddamned mayavadis preached them all to death. Then there was King Vena who was caught by the Brahmanas for being wicked... they kneaded his right thigh first and a dark-skinned dwarf appeared. They then kneaded his left thigh and King Prithu appeared... They left his other leg for Bhavananda dasa to construct the planetarium in Mayapur. No kidding, we all need a Gaudiya / Chaitanya / ISKCON gopi manjari guru to explain these complex truths.
Guru-ji!Beam me up!
>>11) Each and every guru must be of this high qualification (siddha-mahatma). One cannot jump to the guru above him and remain properly connected.<<
BIF: High qualifications and proper connections for what?.... To fry elephant eggs hatched by Vama Margis and Nambudri cavemen from southern India? Stoners who were so far gone they actually believed Earth (Mathura!!) had an 88 mile high mountain.... little girls strip bare and go skinny-dipping in public ghats.... Brajabasis hacked into a twelve-mile-long witch who came crashing down in forests between Mathura and Vraj, and then burnt her chunks, bones and all... Krishna's father had 900'000 cows but he stole dairy from the neighbors... like the owner of Colgate stealing toothpaste.... and we are supposed to think that's cool. So the siddha- mahatmas who are highly qualified insist that being properly connected means understanding the differences between Peter Rabbit, Brer Rabbit and Jack Rabbit..... sukha goo naram goo sab goo.
>>12) Guru is a sadhana siddha.
13) Diksa and siksa come from one person. Because internal meaning of the diksa is siksa in a seed form. After that seed is planted, siksa that follows allows that seed.<<
BIF: The lesson here is not to get rooted by an old twad. He may cark it after first initiation and you wont make it to the forests of Vraj. That means.... no gopi nookie.
>>14) Mantra is a secret that must be revealed. It must be heard directly from the guru. Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Saraswati Thakura Prabhupada, if he ever received initiation, he definitely did not receive brahma gayatri and sannyasa gayatri. Since his mantras are not received in a bona fide disciplic succession they will never bear fruit (sampradaya vihina ye, mantras te nisphala matah, Padma Purana).<<
BIF: Yeah. And you thought joining the CIA was secret stuff. Anyhow, and no matter how we look at it, the very chain of tradition ISKCON cites as validation for begging donations is non-extant. ISKCON is a pirate ship, adrift and loaded with dinosaur dung.
>>15) Mantras which are received in ISKCON and the Gaudiya Math at the time of mantra-diksa are not bona fide. (This point is based on the idea that the mantras which Satyanarayana received from his guru, Haridas Sastri, in the Gadadhara parivara, are not the same as those given in ISKCON and Gaudiya Math)<<
BIF: We have pointed out the ISKCON Gaudiya Mutt nonsense gayatri in previous articles. The ISKCON mantras are loaded with Bengali words unique to Gaudiyas, whereas the gayatri mantra is classical Sanskrit. Even the maha-mantra was never chanted by Chaitanya. According to Gaudiya revelations Chaitanya chanted the Govinda jaya jaya... mantra. We must again look at the "Bhaktivinode-in-Wonderland" nama haat program to find the source of concoctions. Once again, approach any member of the Madhv sampradaya... Yes, the ones that ISKCON's founder declares as bona fide link in his sampradaya chain. Sing the ISKCON gayatri to them and discover..... only the Bhur Bhuva verse has credence. The rest is Bhakti...vinode...siddhanta...vedanta Bangla baloney.
Gayatri...lost in translation
>>16) Harinam-diksa in ISKCON and Gaudiya Math is not bona fide. Harinam-diksa simply does not exist.
17) In the Gaudiya line brahma-gayatri does not exist, it is a part of varnasrama.
18) Sannyasa in the Gaudiya line does not exist, it is a part of varnasrama. Sannyasa-gayatri, as above mentioned, does not have any potency. <<
BIF: ISKCON dupes actually believe.... Krishna complained to acBSp that the chips were too salty... and that acBSp could see demigods in his presence..... Krishna was coming to him and dictating the nonsense he wrote and thought, like... blacks are born slaves.... unmarried women are prostitutes..... licking and smelling vaginas till fifty years of age is okay.... girls walking 'big big dogs' in Brooklyn Park were rearing them for sex.... if your father is against Krishna (= acBSp) he is a pseudo guru and okay to kill.... all those who vilify the teachings or the teacher (acBSp) should have their tongues cut out and killed. When we consider this pile of dino-dung and the fact that it is accepted as coming from the mouth of god-guru, does the Vrindavan Anti-party not realize the extent of mental damage....or do they require medication themselves? We believe they do.
>>The second thrust is as follows:
Deviations from the siddhanta of the Six Goswamis are being preached in ISKCON and Gaudiya Math. This is supported by the following seven points (19-25).
19) Srila Prabhupada preached sahajiyaism. (Reading from sahajiya literatures, Satyanarayana claims to find parallel points being preached by A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada and the sahajiya groups.
20) These misconceptions given by A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada are also found throughout the writings of Bhaktivinode Thakur and Saraswati Thakur. <<
BIF: How can one misconception right another when both are steeped in abstract metaphysical theories that bend fiction to meet reality? Both, the Anti-party and ISKCON, are dream sellers. They exist on donations excreted from fear of an afterlife retribution that they instigate and promote; a metaphysical state of continuum based on reaction as per cult coded dogma...... Which makes this argy-bargy a Tweedle Dum Tweedle Dee fracas.
>>21) Gaudiya Math and ISKCON have the wrong conception about the relation of raganuga and vaidhi bhakti. Sadhana is divided into vaidhi and raganuga sadhana. Vaidhi leads to vaidhi and raganuga sadhana leads to raganuga. Vaidhi never leads to raganuga.
"I am right!"..." No you're not"
22) A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada gives his own explanation of rasa in his Nectar of Devotion, one which is never heard of before.<<
BIF: What it comes down to after all the word buggery is,.... "My understanding of Neverland is more god conscious than yours." Albeit we do agree in that all three founders of the Gaudiya parampara were Pinocchio's, and especially acBSp, who, with the aid of English speaking disciples, translated and interpreted everything into a slave trader's handbook which cocoons a deva over dog infrastructure.
>>23) A. C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada (acBSp) preached the mayavada philosophy by stating in a number of places in his books that this world is just a dream, non-real. This particular concept is actually found in the teachings of Gaudapada, the parama guru of Sripad Sankaracarya. (Satya Narayan argues that this is the wrong siddhanta since one of the basic tenants of the Gaudiya philosophy is, as stated by Srila Baladeva Vidyabhusana in his nine prameyas that this world is real (visvam-satyam).<<
BIF: Prabhupada (acBSp) said whatever felt right at the time. Without any exaggeration, he was the most ambiguous wriggler of his era. He explained the material creation as a dream emanating from Maha Vishnu as he lies in Yoga Nidra. But he was quick to add- "If a tiger attacks then don't think it is dream. So there is reality." Here is his dreamscape- acBSp : ‘This material world is created by the dreaming of Maha-Visnu. The real factual platform is the spiritual world, but when the spirit soul wants to imitate the Supreme Personality of Godhead, he is put into this dreamland of material creation.” (Purport to SB. 4.29.83). Yeah right, but don't forget the tiger.
>>24) The Jaiva Dharma written by Bhaktivinode Thakur is full of contradictions, misconceptions and apasiddhanta. One of the examples is that it has been written there that the catuh sloki of Srimad Bhagavatam lies inherently dormant within the heart of the living entity. (Satyanarayana further argues that this is apasiddhanta. If the catuh sloki of Srimad Bhagavatam is lying dormant within the heart of the living entity, then why Lord Brahma, after a thousand celestial years of tapa, receives them from outside, from his guru, Sri Krsna)?<<
BIF: For those readers who are first time visitors to this site... Brahma is a four-headed god often portrayed sitting on a lotus. He used to have five heads. His fifth head propositioned his daughter for (sex) incest. She cursed the head so it would bray like a donkey. Once when Shiva visited Brahma his four heads offered prayers but his donkey head did not so Shiva hacked it off. Gaudiya / Chaitanyites worship Brahma as the secondary creator. Maybe he did get his daughter to gestate after all. The result .... Vaisnavism. As for the catuh sloki or four seed slokas of the SriMAD Bhagavatam : it was weed-seed to begin with, but is now a Gaudiya / American / Jew genetically modified... brain tumor.
>>25) The concept that jiva is actually sat - cit - ananda, as it is found throughout the teachings of Srila Bhaktivinode Thakura, Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Saraswati Thakura Prabhupada, Srila A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada is apasiddhanta." (Satyanarayana argues that jiva is not sat - cit - ananda, it possesses only sat - eternality aspect. Cit and ananda aspects are received in a seed form at the time of initiation, from a guru who is in a bona fide diksa parampara.)<<
Summary: The Radha/ Krishna/ gopi sex is pedophile provocation. It should be understood that pedophilia or 'intergenerational preference' is a felony, but those afflicted with it are treated as patients with psychological disorder. Any interested researcher in this field of study will discover that testing for the affliction includes pictures and voice-overs of minors. Positive response to the stimuli targets areas of level and preference. In litterature passed out by the cult, we see a multi level variety of provocation..... enough to stimulate and agitate to a point of active response. The overriding problem however is that there is no monitoring or restrictive environment once those triggers are set in motion. It is why ISKCON faced a massive (numbers quashed) child abuse law suit. Still, the literature keeps going out under the noses of law makers and enforcers without any restraint. As we pointed out earlier.... any publication of that nature, or internet reaction with minors, will bring the gavel down on perpetrators... Notwithstanding, ISKCON / Chaitanyaism makes money on the sales of what is otherwise illegal across the planet. The organization is even granted a tax-exemption charity status. Ban cult books in India NOW! Set an example for the world to follow, and prevent the rape of girls and helpless children in our cities and villages.
KNOTS in a THREAD
It is a forlorn hope...another fakir fantasy. ISKCON's founder acBSp desired in his final days that the varnamasram dham (or Chaturvarna) system of caste and spiritual classification be reintroduced a la 'Vedic times'. To understand what Vedic times means, is to not include caveman Uggh and his woolly mammoth. Varnasrama is a system, according to ISKCON, which came with the planet. acBSp based his belief on what Aryan Prince Krishna (now sold as Gaudiya god- Krishna) was supposed to have said in the Bhagavad Gita As It Is (BGaii) 5'000 years ago. We say 'supposed' because the work now has several versions, most of which are grossly interpolated. The BGaii is the ISKCON cult version. Here is the quote- [BGaii. 4.13]: “According to the three modes of material nature and the work associated with them, the four divisions of human society are created by Me…”
With that quote in focus it leaves no doubt the division of mankind was autochthonous to god's creation. Hence the Brahmins, and (according to acBSp) the more senior Vaisnav caste, were intrinsically endogamous i.e., created by god in the beginning and inbred to maintain blood lines and varnamasram division created by him. Right?.... Wrong!! It is our unshakable belief that the natural division of human society due to aptitude and preference, as mentioned in (later additions to) the Rig Ved, was the source of information purposelly misintrepted by scammers for domination power and control.
Packaged...All in one.
Even the Gaudiya claim that Chaitanya appeared (as an incognito Radha / Krishna) to remove birthright and offer everyone a shot at being Brahmin (even foreigners with American dollars) simply by chanting the cult's magic mantra, confirms cult belief that god made Brahmins simultaneously with the material creation. What the propagators of this nonsense could never know is that anthropology and genetic science would, one day, trace bloodlines identifying endogamous groups dating millennia into the past. That day has come, and we cannot help but scream... CAST OUT THE CASTE !!! How can caste mean anything in the very land where it germinated when India's Constitution was drafted /composed and presented by a man who in times past would have been considered 'Untouchable'. Here he is (emphasis added) : -
Bhimrao Ramji Ambedkar (14 April 1891 – 6 December 1956), popularly also known as Babasaheb, was an Indian jurist, politician, philosopher, anthropologist, historian and economist.....[....].... As independent India's first law minister, he was principal architect of The Constitution of India. Barack Obama, president of USA, referred to Dr. Ambedkar as a founding father of modern India during his address speech in Indian Parliament. The poll conducted by CNN-IBN titled "The Greatest Indian since Gandhi" resulted in Ambedkar being voted above all.
Born into a poor Mahar (were considered so called untouchable caste) family, Ambedkar campaigned against social discrimination, the system of Chaturvarna – the categorisation of Hindu society into four varnas – and the Hindu caste system.
Is it any wonder that stalwarts like Ramji Ambedekar and the Great Maharishi Dayanand campaigned against the bogus caste system which bred only division and inequality and prevented intellectuals like Shriman Ambedekar from contributing to his Nation's welfare and advancement? Now without any further delay we present the anthropological and scientific findings regarding the bogus evidence written and enforced by standover cultists as god's desired division of all peoples:
- Indians mated across ethnic groups till 2nd century: Study
New Delhi, Aug. 8: People across India mixed and mated without class, caste, or ethnic barriers for about 2,300 years until strict endogamy emerged across the subcontinent around the 2nd century AD, a new genetic study has suggested.
The study by scientists at the Centre for Cellular and Molecular Biology (CCMB), Hyderabad, and the Harvard Medical School has indicated a staggering level of population admixture that they say had not been previously suspected.
The scientists said that ancient, pervasive and widespread mixture of genes showed up in the genetic makeup of virtually all of India’s present-day populations — upper-castes, lower-castes, and even tribes such as Bhils of Gujarat, the Kallars of Tamil Nadu, and another tribe from Uttar Pradesh, long viewed as genetically isolated.
The study, based on the analysis of the genetic make-up of 571 persons from 73 well-defined ethno-linguistic groups — 71 from India and two from Pakistan — has found evidence of widespread population mixture between 4,200 and 1,900 years ago.
“With the dawn of endogamy, genetic mixing became rare — that’s what we see in present-day Indian genomes,” Priya Moorjani, a graduate student at the Harvard Medical School and the first author of the study, told The Telegraph. The findings will be published tomorrow in the American Journal of Human Genetics.
The CCMB-Harvard team had shown through similar genetic analysis four years ago that most Indians have their origins in two root populations — ancestral south Indians (ASI) not related to any population outside the subcontinent, and ancestral north Indians (ANI) related to present-day Central Asians, Middle Easterners, Caucasians and Europeans.
The genetic makeup of modern Indians contains a mosaic of chromosomal segments from both ANI and ASI — and the lengths of the segments of ASI and ANI ancestry allow them to measure the time of genetic mixture in individual populations.
“We can now assign time periods for cultural changes in India that appeared to culminate in the establishment of endogamy some 1,900 years ago,” said co-author Kumarasamy Thangaraj, a scientist and team member at the CCMB.
The analysis shows the history of India’s population has changed episodically, said David Reich, professor of genetics at the Harvard school and the study’s senior author. Prior to 4,000 years ago, there was no mixture — the ANI and ASI remained isolated.
“Then there was widespread mixture between ANI and ASI that affected all population groups in India, including the isolated tribal groups,” Reich said. “And finally, there was a shift to endogamy such that mixture between even geographically closely-located groups became rare.”
The scientists have found that the dates of mixture are correlated to language and geography as the mixtures are more recent in the northern Indo-European language speaking groups than in the southern Dravidian language speaking groups of India. That is possibly because populations in the north have had multiple episodes of ANI-ASI mixtures.
The study has also indicated tentative dates when specific population groups turned to endogamy — the Vysyas in Andhra for instance have the longest period of endogamy, or genetic isolation, nearly 3000 years. The Bhils in Gujarat have remained largely isolated for nearly 2200 years.
The ancestors of Kshatriyas in Uttar Pradesh were mixing with other groups at least until 2,200 years ago, the ancestors of Brahmins in Uttar Pradesh were doing so at least until 1,885 years ago, as did those of the Sindhis of Pakistan up to 1,940 years ago.
Moorjani, who completed a Bachelor of Engineering in computer science in Mumbai before pursuing a PhD in genetics in the US, said the new study was consistent with the content of the ancient Indian texts, including the Rig Veda.
“The oldest text in India, the Rig Veda, does not mention a caste system at all, and suggests there was substantial social movement of populations, as reflected in the acceptance of people with non-Indo-European names as chieftains and poets,” she said.
“The class system, of grouping people based on occupational roles, is first mentioned only in the book 10 of Rig Veda that was likely to have been composed later. The caste system of endogamous groups is, however, only mentioned centuries later in the law code of Manu, or Manusmriti, that forbids mixing between caste groups.”
“We’ve known there was admixture and co-mingling of populations, but we'll need more evidence to establish the chronology,” said T.K. Venkatasubramanian, a former professor of ancient Indian history at the University of Delhi.
“The date for the code of Manu is not clear, but it is accepted as having been around in the pre-Christian era, after the advent of the iron age which began in India around 1000 BC.”
The CCMB’s Thangaraj said long periods of endogamy had led to concentration of certain deleterious genetic mutations in some populations.
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