His Master's Voice
>>..... Berkeley temple (U.S) had 240 devotees, three houses, and huge harinama samkirtanas (sic) all the time here in 1977. We were also selling millions of Srila Prabhupada books every year, just here in the Bay Area alone. We also had a temple in San Francisco with maybe 60-70 devotees, and they had big harinamas there on Market street regularly.
Since the GBC “gurus” took over, the San Francisco temple has been closed for maybe 20 years now, there is no temple there at all. There are now no Market street harinamas here, ever. The GBC also sold the three Berkeley temple’s houses and pocketed the money, so there is no place for the householders to live, and in sum they just kicked out everyone en masse. Right now there has been around 10-15 devotees at the Berkeley temple for a long time, so its a major struggle just to collect funds to pay the electric bill, and that has been the case for the past 15 years here at least.
I am sorry, but this is not some made up lies, its what is happening now, come here and see this for yourself. Yes we have harinamas maybe once a month here in Berkeley, five people maybe.
The San Francisco temple is now a laundry mat, I can take you there and show you. The Berkeley temple is a ghost town, come here and look for yourself. How can we lie about stuff like this when everyone knows that is the history here?<<
.... was it any different for the cult in pre-American hare krishna? No, it was not. Here read for yourself:-
>>Unfortunately, the post- 1936 Gaudiya Matha, and persons like Sridhara Maharaja, Professor Sannyal, Madhava maharaja and the Gaudiya Matha leaders in general, they all supported false acharyas which divided their mission; and subsequently created falling down gurus; and subsequently created murders of dissenters; which then created horrible newspaper stories that exposed these murders and so forth.<<
Snuffbox wants you!
12. So we need not explain further. Readers can see by admission, Snuffbox, and his gaudiya god- krishna, failed miserably. Even after selling millions of Srila Prabhupada books every year which Snuffbox claimed were written by god himself, the plan to shackle more innocent lives, to kennel more guru slave dogs, even after threatening them with yamaduta dog-catchers, failed. For those who don't know it, the GBC is iskcon's managerial authority. If we are to believe the blog-barker above, then the hare krishna GBC must be mad. This is in line with BIF belief. Our approach to the cult is that they are ALL, TOTALLY sick. Who else would believe this garbage- HERE, and just have a gander at this recent posting which blew past cult moderators and onto a public web site. Ask yourself- is the hare krishna society MDD crazy or not? More importantly, can they be permitted to spread mental mush already identified and addressed in India, by past exemplars, as a determent to National advancement and security?
HK or FU !!!
... now drink it, dupe
Here it is for all to see. A hypocrite... a Snuffbox Swami, who permitted his disciples twenty wives but imposed 'regulative principles' which included no tea, coffee, chocolate, beetle nut, mushroom, garlic, onion, etc. Yet he snorts strong tobacco directly into his brain. He even abandoned his wife (a girl whom he sexed when she was 11-12 years old) because, he claimed, she had a tea addiction. He gave her an ultimatum- 'Tea or me' before deserting her and the kids. And now his dupes should know- when BIF investigated the godman, his family informed us.... the 'mahabhagavat' was ALWAYS a weak ass snuff addict. The revelations, as we go on, will show reason why TKG may have found justification in assassinating his guru ... an MDD infect who willfully subverted the lives of countless innocent people to feed his dictatorial MDD.
4) Unfortunately, Upendra mistook champagne for lemonade, and he fed Srila Prabhupada the champagne. Prabhupada drank a little and motioned that he was satisfied. (TKG's Diary p- 192)
Unfortunately.... My butt ! We are discussing a man who claimed direct and sole agency to supreme intelligence- GOD! But here he is, unable to tell the difference between champagne and sodapop. He guzzles the booze and then motioned that he was satisfied.... Whaaat?
In the first four excerpts we find a godman who is a total shamus. He does not chant on tulasi beads (or at all?) proving the tree-goddess Tulasi to be an antediluvian implant. We agree. He then eats grains on ekadasi which asserts the BIF understanding i.e., ekadasi is a control implant. And... he snorts snuff. Our team has studied Snuffbox audio/video lectures closely. He is a nose-rubbing, throat-clearing, snuff addict, no doubt. "...dees ees krsna konsessness... snooort! arrrgh!" Ergo it should come as no surprise when champagne buzzes like aspirin to a junkie.
5) During the gurukula kirtan, Prabhupada is drooling more and more (TKG's Diary p-58)
Drooling in front of the kids? How does this undignified behavior make him a mahabhagavat? Snuffbox was no different to Joe Smith suffering dementia at the Shady Palms hospice. It is interesting to note that he built his reputation on the "Indian Swami who comes in direct succession from god" mystic claim. Then he drools and dies in the darkness without amour-propre, like an old druggie on welfare.
6) Prabhupada was speaking to Bhavananda Maharaja and looking at him said, "Just now I am forgetting you name. This is the position." (TKG's Diary p-198)
godmen... this a-way
How different was this old hari from Harry the Hobo? The answer is self evident... He claimed to be good-as-god and demanded reverence accordingly, but time showed him to be a fudge... a blanked out snuff snorter.
7) Prabhupada has difficulty hearing correspondence. Very often, he falls asleep in the middle of a letter. (TKG's Diary: 198)
8) Today while listening to Jayadvita read, Prabhupada fell asleep (TKG's Diary p-73)
Snuffbox cannot even keep his eyes open in company. A huge contrast to the yarns he spun in his books about lesser beings (not even palsy-walsy with god-krishna, like he was) who jumped over mountains, killed millions with a single blow and performed tapasya for thousands of years... underwater. Yet here he is, Mr. Ordinary in groundhog day... snoring in the middle of his own fairy-krishna lila.
9) In the case of Mr. Myer, I had originally thought I should deal with him myself and not tax Srila Prabhupada. But gradually, I had begun to feel that this man was a little special and deserved special attention. Prabhupada however, had to strain to think the whole matter out, and I saw now that I should not have bothered him (TKG's Diary p-73)
So where was 'god' in the Swami's good-as-god claim? Snuffbox, the founder of hare krishna iskcon, lived high on the hog. He exploited everyone to promote himself as god-on-earth. Those closest to him were there because they were MOST exploited. Observing up close and personal a drooling bhagavan, presented a quandary to the iskcon inner circle... "Do we continue to promote him good-as-god or hide the obvious to expand the business?" What evolved from that scenario is the current GBC 'plethoric guru' policy which hangs the myth as a cult shingle to advertize the godman business, and little else.
But... was that enough for TKG? He had allegedly undergone an operation to remove his masculinity based on celibate demands made by the godman Swami who was now a flaccid bag of bones; drooling and jelly-brained, even worse than a homeless wino. Did TKG feel cheated? Club that possibility to a driving MDD and toss it in with TKG's overheard sotto voce statement ...he is just a senile old man who fucked everything up.' We at BIF do not condone murder, but we sure as hell understand TKG's frustration. Hence the archived audio recording (T 46/A) revealing a pissed off TKG giving his MDD guru-boss the ultimatum: "Now you have to choose which suicide."
10. In the afternoon Srila Prabhupada felt lonely and unhappy, so he asked us all to come to him. (TKG's Diary: 297)
In our article 'Whopper War' we highlighted two whopper quotes by Srila Prabhupada (aka. Snuffbox, aka. acBSp) :
Prabhupada: ... and actually for the benefit of the human society. They have no other desire.
Hari-sauri: No, they can't stop this movement. It's not possible to stop this movement now.
Prabhupada: No, it is not possible. That I'm certain. It is advertising indirectly. (laughs)
Hari-sauri: Will things get physically violent?
Prabhupada: Well, the violence there may be. It doesn't matter.
Hari-sauri: We should... If we have to, we can...
Prabhupada: Oh, yes. We must... Self-protection must be there.
Hari-sauri: Because now with these kidnappings it seems that we may have to...
Hari-sauri: Then we'll have to fight.
Prabhupada: Oh, yes. Why not? Kill them.
Hari-sauri: Yes. If we don't get protection from the government, then what can we do?
Prabhupada: Oh, you must kill them. Tit for tat. As soon as we detect that "Here is deprogrammer and kidnapper," kill him. Finish!
Hari-sauri: And if we go to court, then it's self-defense.
Prabhupada: Yes. At least give him some good lesson. Yes.
Hari-sauri: Yes. Definitely.
Prabhupada: That should be done.
Hari-sauri: We fought with demons once or twice before that have attacked the temple. We ought to give 'em a good hiding.
Prabhupada: There is civil war. Why not this?
Hari-sauri: Yes. This is... This is a big fight now.
Hari-sauri: (laughs) You're the world's greatest revolutionary. (Prabhupada laughs) [break]
Hari-sauri: Now that we're being attacked like this physically ...
Prabhupada: So we must attack them also.
Hari-sauri: Should we actually have a training program so that our ...
Hari-sauri: ... we'd know how to defend? Like you were saying var?asrama ...
Hari-sauri: ...system there must be k?atriya and everything like that.
Hari-sauri: Should we actually start to ...
Hari-sauri: ... train up some of our men so they know how to fight?
Prabhupada: Yes, why not?
Hari-sauri: 'Cause we have men who know how to use guns. They practice a little. But on the whole, our devotees don't ... They're not ...
Prabhupada: They are not trained up.
Hari-sauri: Trained up to be able to defend themselves, and these people are professional gu??as.
Prabhupada: That...? What is that? "Kivat?" They practice self-defense?
Hari-sauri: There's different forms of self-defense. (end)
Knots in a Thread:
Below are a few funny quips (we think so) in response to our posting- Ululations from a Cave; a tiny block of bizarre hare krishna beliefs. Thanks guys. Keep 'em coming.
mama brahma !!!
Let's yajna, baby!
Dhruva? ...is that you?
Have fun, Yaya