>>How is it that he was not prosecuted with Ham? is the question any sensible seeker of the truth must ask, and our answer in that regard is factual. Arrangements have been made through Slavin, sr., and the Chicago FBI Office that Radhanath Swami would not be indicted for his involvement. He made just such a boast and the GBC made it a condition of his return to ISKCON. If he gets indicted now, he will be kicked out of ISKCON,* but he always has Nathji's Chowpatty Orphanage. He has 6 disciples who are billionaires; Nathji Desai being the 5th richest man in the world at one point.
* Don't hold your breath on that one, JD.
>>He separated himself from "our case", which was quite strange since "his case" and "my case" were, in fact, the same "case"; the murder of Sulochan.
Curiouser and curiouser.
9) You and Radhanath were never indicted for illegal business dealings (copyright infringement) as were the other two defendants?
>>None of the four of us were ever indicted. We were called before the Grand Jury and the prosecutor decided not to prosecute any of us. The other business, the drug smuggling in the US was never more than the source of an occasional huge (6 figures) donation from some of the second generation drug kingpins.
But you said......
The other two were only indicted for their involvement in samkirtan mail fraud, using the Express Mail to ship unauthorized NFL hats to teams at football stadiums. They were the logistic support team that kept the football game pickers supplied, through Express Mail and overnight air shippers, with those illegal hats.
10) This is the scam that netted NV $10 million between 1981 & 1985; money that was largely assessed by Ham, and dispersed in part among NV management?
>> The same.
Since the murder was the larger charge, Radhanath Swami and I were expected to pay more than half of the lawyers expenses, but I expected that he would help out with something because he had many centers where the donors donated to him personally, knowing that he was Kirtanananda's right hand man.
Okay Janmastami Prabhu, let's give Radhanath's ghosts back to him:
KuladrI claimed that Radhanath was... "pushing like crazy for this [murder] to happen."
11) Do you concur with the court recorded statement above?
>>Absolutely. It is the truth. You'll note, none of the principals, even those who would like to see Kirtanananda Swami punished for something, are so deceptive as to say "Kirtanananda Swami ordered it." Except for Tirtha, who, in his "final version of events", changed his story to incriminate Kirtanananda and give him jail time.
12) Is there anything you wish to add to Kuladri's statement?
excerpt: Janmastami dasa, who traveled with and assisted Tirtha while conducting surveillance on Sulochan in California, explained how he was recruited to assist in the elimination of Sulochan: "In January of 1986, on my return to New Vrindaban [after the Christmas marathon], I was ordered by Radhanath . . . not by Kirtanananda Swami, to terminate Sulochan.
13) Is the statement above true to the best of your knowledge?
When you say..."ordered by Radhanath....to terminate Sulochan," what you are saying is:
14) You were directly enlisted by Radhanath Swami to murder Sulochan, is that right?
>>That is correct.
15) What were his exact words in connection with your participation in executing the crime?
>>It was a ten minute prepared speech: It put the future of the KRSNA consciousness movement on this planet in Kirtanananda Swami's hands, and that was in jeopardy because of the threats on the lives of NVC management. Radhanath Swami gave us the spiel on how- "as a ksatriya, your nature is to..." and all the rest of the bodily distinctions required to justify such an act in one's mind. We were told that Sulochan had a hit list with half a dozen names on it, targeted for elimination. A pre-emptive strike was the mindset.
Such mindset had to be accepted, community policy, or otherwise Radhanath had the power, spiritually, to change the direction of the outcome of the events.
He didn't want to change anything. Everything went exactly the way he planned, until after the murder. Then the trap that the FBI had set was sprung and someone from NVC was going to jail. About 5 or 6 people did jail time for the events: Kirtanananda Swami, Tirtha, Top Buffoon (?) Kuladri, Dharmatma, and Sundarakara (mail fraud).
16) What was the amount agreed to as payment, and how was it to be transacted?
>>This is the thing, there never was "an amount agreed to". When Radhanath spoke, it was only of "devotional service", and, at least from our point of view there was no "price tag". The police asked me the same thing and I told them, "You've got it wrong. I send him money, and I have the money order receipts to prove it." That was very damaging to their scenario. Quite possibly another reason I was not indicted. All this "getting paid" nonsense came up long after I left the operation.
17) Were there any witnesses privy to the transaction?
>>The only "transaction", the getaway money, is the object of the Dharmatma Das' testimony.
18) Did you carry out your end of the contract, in toto?
>>There was no "contract", so there was no "finish". If "protection of the spiritual master" was the goal, can you ever say "mission accomplished"?
19) Were you a perceptive witness to the execution?
>>Nearly. I had a flower business in Philadelphia and I lived at the Philadelphia temple. I was not a part of "the New Vrndaban surveillance team" and I did not "work with the police", as they did. I did not like Randall Gorby being involved, and his "enthusiasm" was clearly that of an agent provocateur. It turns out that my hunch was right and their "covert operation" was in fact compromised by government infiltrators.
The warden, Bordenkircher, on FBI insistence, called NVC and told them two days before Sulochan (who was being held in jail) was released that he was planning to make bail. NVC was ready to react (as per the FBI trap set for them), and Drescher (Tirtha) called from California anticipating Sulochan's return to rearm himself and get a resupply of drugs. It was assumed Sulochan would stop at his mother's first to get some money. But Tirtha chose his point of attack based on his continued contact with the LA devotees who had been ordered by Ramasvara Swami to "transmigrate this guy to his next body".
LA was the place, with a car and a throw away gun ready and waiting for him. this was more widely known and accepted in LA and NV than throughout the rest of the movement, but even Satsvarupa Goswami and others weighed in on it.
Jai Sri Krsna Das had come from Washington DC to run my flower business until Tirtha and I were through (assassinating Sulochan Das) in California, but Tirtha called the Philly payphone (at the Philadelphia Temple) and told me not to come, the deed was already done. People at the Philly temple, including Ravindra Svarupa (William H. Deadwyler lll. ISKCON GBC/Guru) and Sesa (Seth Spellman. Temple President, LA) knew that Sulochan was dead before the news was released."
That's how "close" to being involved I was. But I was only an underling. There were "controllers", of whom Radhanath Swami was one, and in spite of his continued denial.
Tirtha acted only with the help of the LA devotees. Then he called his government agent /assistant, Randall Gorby, to make arrangements for his exit which included money he expected someone to bring him. When I was ordered to run to India, no one gave me anything. In fact, the millionaires borrowed rupees from me, until I told Kirtanananda about it and he yelled at them to give my money back. But they never gave me an extra paisa.
You stated ...
This happened with Tapa Punja Swami and Tirtha in November and December of 1985. I was on traveling samkirtan until Christmas and didn't get back to the farm until New Years. Immediately on our arrival at New Vrindaban, Radhanath sought me out and made arrangements for us to meet in his van, where he went through a prepared speech....
When you say.... "This happened with Tapa Punja Swami and Tirtha (Thomas Drescher: currently serving a life sentence for the murder of Sulochan)....[....]....and made arrangements for us to meet in his van..." you are informing us that ...
20) Tapa Punja Swami was witness to the contract between Radhanath Swami, Drescher and yourself, in his van, in the planned murder of Sulochan, is that correct?
I had made the point that there was no "contract", therefore no meeting. whenever the devotees met, it was understood that that was "a community goal", and anyone who had any such "positive" input, information on Sulochan's whereabouts or anything like that, would give it up, to the front office, to Kuladri, like that.
Here below, you tell us:
When he went on his own, I had to pay half of our legal bill, mine and the two remaining "swamis". Radhanath made his deal, and the next time we all met, at the Grand Jury hearing, Radhanath and the prosecution team were all high fiving over a deal already done.
Are you saying:
21) After Radhanath Swami managed to go "on his own", you, being party to his (possible) indictment for murder, became part of his defense strategy?
>>His "defense strategy" was formulated in his father's lawyers offices, and the results are not only that Radhanath was not indicted, but that he has a guarantee that he never will be.
22) So what appeared to be a stroke of great fortune for you was really Radhanath Swami effectually removing you from the witness box so you could not testify? Is this a fair assumption?
....and then it was a simple matter of not answering any questions?
>>The "swamis" and I, each paid $1100 to be advised not to answer any questions on that subject matter, and in their cases, to deny knowledge of the contents of the parcels they shipped.
23) Were the "swamis" prepared to lie to the Grand Jury?
>>The "swamis", Paramahamsa Krsna Swami, and Bhakti Rasa (?), were accused of shipping hats from NVC to SKP (street seller) devotees at football games and other sporting events. I don't know their testimonies, we each prepared with our lawyer separately, not hearing the others testimonies. They claimed they did not know the contents of the packages that they shipped and that was not true.
24) Who advised them to lie and perjure? Was it Stein, Radhanath's lawyer?
>>I don't know their testimonies, we each prepared with our lawyer separately, not hearing the others testimonies.
After Radhanath dealt out of prosecution, I was no longer "involved" in the Sulochan murder, since my only involvement was through Radhanath, who they now were forced to exonerate. "Innocent".
How Radhanath 'dealt out of prosecution' comes easily into focus when we hear you say:-
>>Radhanath's father was at one time, Chicago's largest liquor distributor, with Mafia connections for 50 years or more.
We also know that Radhanath Swami used his position as a cult leader to mix psychology and philosophy in a concocted edict to murder. And, according to court statements, pushed for the murder of another human being. We also know that he enlisted you, Drescher, Tapa Punja Swami and Kuladri, in clandestine meetings, to do this evil deed. We know this because you have so bravely come out at risk to your own safety and wellbeing. Thank You.
>>Because my only involvement was through the perpetrator, Radhanath, to whom they now had dealt a "get out of jail free" card. "Protected by Krishna!" is how I've always seen it, and He's walked into some strange situations, especially from a devotional viewpoint.
Radhanath's "get out of jail free" card applies only to the US. He, along with Ham, as we have mentioned earlier in this post, are now operating under India's legal jurisdiction. Forget all the nonsense you may have heard about bribery and corruption in the Indian judicial and Law Enforcement administration. That was part of India's "third world" past. The CBI, CID, and Metropolitan Police Force, combined with investigative journalists from the world's largest free press, makes India the most infertile place for criminals like Ham and Radhanath. Yet, there they are. Think about it.
>>Humbly submitted for your consideration,