"The doorstep to the temple of wisdom, is the knowledge of our ignorance."
27th Oct. 2012

1. Child marriage was NEVER Vedic!  We challenge anyone to disprove the statement, and specifically iskcon pedophiles blinded by the Prabhupada (acBSp) 'Vedic' misinformation program.  Still, with morality in place, child marriage in India was a system that could have worked.  Children were betrothed at a young age, went about their lives and were again united in adolescent years.  A final ceremony was performed when the couple came together, after which some time was spent at the home of the boy's family and then some time at the girl's family home.  The idea behind residing at the in-laws was for both spouses to understand how the other half lived; likes and dislikes.  Having gone through the required stages the couple then moved to their own home and started a family.  By this time they were adults.  The system was workable except for the opportunity it provided predators:  an open door to child trafficking...Child Sexual Abuse (CSA)...Pedophilia. 

meant to be...

2. Poverty was the factor that weakened the system and opened it to abuse.  Parents who could not afford to maintain a family, and believing they were doing the best for their children i.e., providing a foster home, traded daughters for as little as an old bicycle and bag of flour.  The girl would be sexually abused and then sold down the line.  Some girls and boys, if they were good looking, and in the case of young boys with a 'feminine disposition', were donated to vaisnav temples for use in a lucrative sex trade by 'brahman' pimps and traffickers.  Herein lies the origins, past persistence and political push to maintain child sex: slavery and exploitation. 
"It is also a law of nature that the accumulation of wealth in a community out of all proportion to its needs and requirements brings in its train indolence, jealousy, mutual hatred, lustfulness, luxury and neglect of duty which put an end to all sound learning and education, whose place is usurped by evil customs, manners and practices like the use of meat and wine, child marriage, and licentiousness."
Satyarth Prakash
Maharishi Dayananda Swami
3. For the socially elevated pedophile in early India, his heterogeneous disorder was disguised as community service.  Presenting himself as a do-gooder, he took care of the 'girl-child problem.'  However the pedophile was spotted in his blatant breach of the system which provides a time-span-plan for the girl's maturity.  In fact, pedophile grooms were years older than their tiny brides.  And immediately following the marriage formalities (and at times without any ceremony) the 'dollies' would be doing (as one pedophile described it) cartwheels. 
4. Q. But how does marriage to, and abuse of one child define a pedophile?  Are they monogamous?  
A. No!  They are not!  In fact one pedophile can sexually abuse thousands of kids (boys and girls) in his lifetime, and those he abuses will suffer mental disorders and (in mostly male children) become abusers themselves.
Q. How then can you say that Prabhupada (acBSp) was a pedophile because he married and impregnated a minor?
A.  To answer this question we must look at the acBSp mindset as revealed in recordings available from his Iskcon cult's- BBT Archives.
First we analyze this quote given along with cult understanding and interpretation :
" Prabhupad: "Therefore polygamy was allowed. Let them be taken care of, one husband, three wives. Therefore the ksatriyas were taking hundreds of women. They had money." [For vaishnav brahmans, 3 wives, although at other times in real life situations he (acBSp) said he had no objection if one devotee takes even 20 wives, as long as he can maintain them. Ksatriyas can take 100's of wives. I point this out because some devotees misunderstood this tape and thought Srila Prabhupad meant only ksatriyas can take more than one wife, but that is not what he said]. 
5. The quote clearly defines women as a commodity that can be purchased, i.e, more money= bigger harem....a Muslim concept.  Further we see the license as a perk to conversion alongside belying cult canon directing abstinence-  "Once a month for procreation".  If acBSp was issuing license to accumulate wives according to means a rich devotee (ksatriyas were taking hundreds of women) could indulge in sex 1/2/3 times a day without ever breaching the abstinence principle.  Importantly, when we club the above quote to the follow-up below it reveals acBSp structuring a pedophile haven:- 
Morning Walk, 11/2/74 Prabhupad says that when the girl is 12 that is very late marriage. He didn't say "late" marriage, he said "very late" marriage. Prabhupad's eldest sister was 9 when she married and his younger sister at 12. His mother-in-law at 7 years old. (And my own mother-in-law was 13 when she was married - very late marriage). And Srila Prabhupad's own wife was only 11 when they were married....." 

take your child marriage and shove it!

 6. So it becomes very clear-  when acBSp spoke of women / wives he meant children.  He was promising his pedophile followers 3 wives or even 20 wives if they could afford them.  And as his own history reveals, he impregnated his child bride immediately on her arrival at his family home,* and continued to do so in spite of several miscarriages.
* Yes, we know acBSp said: "So she came to live at the age of thirteen years, and at fourteen years she gave birth to a child," but Hari Sauri (ex. Prabhupad Krpa Swami,) who was acBSp's personal secretary (and who gave this writer the original manuscript of his book,) made revelation of several miscarriages PRIOR to birth of the first child.  His disclosure was confirmed by acBSp's son Vrindavan Chandra, whom I asked for confirmation as well.  Here are the facts which frame acBSp as having sex with a child long before she was thirteen, or as first thought: 
Hari Sauri: "Apart from these five children I was informed some years ago that Srila Prabhupada had several other children prior to these five, but they all died either before or after birth. I asked Vrindavan Chandra about this and he confirmed it. So it seems superficially that Srila Prabhupada did not have very good 'karma' (in his case Krsna's direct arrangement) as far as children are concerned."  http://www.lotusimprints.com/new/blog/2009/04/02/qas-4-srila-prabhupadas-former-family/


7. "But if he was a pedophile, why did he not abuse thousands of children?"  The answer to that question is a three letter word-  LAW.  Even before taking his ideas to America, acBSp knew the Indian legal system had caught up with child trafficking.  His vaisnav sect temples were under the legal hammer for child abuse and prostitution.  Even so, and though he did mention his desire to take another 'wife,' his situation was not that of a ksatriya.  He was a BA dropout, snake-oil salesman in Allahabad with a piddly income.  And long before his Iskcon enterprise started raking in profits acBSp had run out of mojo.  Furthermore, after arriving in America he discovered a "LEGAL AGE OF CONSENT" was already in place to protect children. 'Carnal knowledge of a minor' and 'Statutory Rape' was enforced.  Yet, in spite of the law, it did not prevent him offering child sex as a god-grown carrot to his judeo/christian targets.
"Once, someone commented to Srila Prabhupada (acBSp) that polygamy was illegal where they were. Srila Prabhupada had suggested that some of the men may need to take multiple wives in order to give the girls proper shelter. So Srila Prabhupada told them, be smart about it. Keep to yourselves, do your own thing, and if anyone asks, just say you are boyfriend and girlfriend. There was to be no registration at Karmi (secular) courthouses, and any nonsense like that."
Let us not miss the point here, acBSp knew polygamy was against the law:- "Because in India, at that time it was allowed, a man can marry more than one wife. Now the law is there."
8. If readers are unaware of the cult's history, we present below proof positive that child marriage was/is practiced in Iskcon.  The possibility of discovery and profile damage such revelations would cause prompted the cult's Governing Body Commission (GBC) to pass this law in 1977, only a few months before acBSp's death-  From GBC Meetings, MARCH 3, 1977 2.30 p.m. 4) Resolved: There will be no marriages of girls until they are 16-years old.
The resolution did not last long.  Unpublished, yet without any doubt as to the soto voce protests from pedophile clusters lured to the cult by implication and promise of its founder, the resolution was rescinded three years later-
From GBC meetings FEBRUARY 25, 1980. 8) That the previous GBC resolution which required that young girls wait until 16 years old to be married to be rescinded.
There has been no repeal, so we understand child marriage is still Iskcon policy and permitted....which is illegal in just about every country on the planet.
9. Subsequently pedophilia became rampant.  Old acBSp disciples were getting the pick of young girls.  Sex slaves were used and discarded.  In several instances child rape and sodomy was carried out under 'Iskcon amnesia' : no one saw heard or remembered anything to bolster victims, not even their own acculturated parents:  
"Gurus and temple leaders also arranged marriages for girls who were barely eleven or twelve years old. The men, who were typically much older, emotionally, physically, and sexually abused their child brides while the parents and everyone else in the organization looked the other way. One guru, Hridayananda Goswami, wrote, "These early marriages show our concern for not letting women become polluted," and he promoted and defended the practice in GBC meetings."  Nori Muster.  Life as a woman on Watseka Avenue: Personal Story.  (The Hare Krishna Movement.  Edwin E Bryant & Maria Ekstrand)
10. What resulted was the Windle Turley lawsuit; an eye-opener to cult pedophilia.  Albeit the case was cleverly covered over by tactful legal contortions it has not escaped the notice of the world.  Here below is a recent posting by a swami in Vrindavan, India.  We have no particular taste for this swami who, like acBSp, uses criticism to get a leg up on those he sees as competition.  Nevertheless, he points to exactly what is now known i.e., progressive criminal activity by the Iskcon cult in India:

Swami Balendu

There have been murder cases connected with devotees of the sect. Even more cases have included
rape, sexual abuse and more.
One of the main rules of the International society of Krishna consciousness is 'Illicit sex is forbidden'. Illicit can be different for different people. In general it means that you are only allowed to have sex with your wife and not with any other woman or before you are married. For certain people 'those who want to live a life even more pure than that' it means even having sex with your wife only once a month, in the time when the woman can conceive and of course only with the purpose of conceiving to have children. I have extensively written about such religious ideas of sex and 'purity'.
Whenever I hear about these rules I wonder how there are so many stories of sex scandals in ISKCON? They have been accused of abusing children in their organization's branches in different countries. There have been many charges for child abuse and they managed to declare those branches bankrupt and pay a minimal sum to those victims and their families. There will be many more people and children who have been abused and didn't go public because of shame or similar reasons.
Everybody knows however that in this sect, where sex is nearly forbidden, people have most sex. There have been a lot of rumors about homosexuality among devotees, both lower and higher in their hierarchy. Lately there has been a lot of talk about prostitution among members of the organization, especially here in Vrindavan.

Swami Balendu

Many of the sect's devotees have come to India from former countries of the Soviet Union where the economic situation is bad, where they don't find a job and cannot earn their living. They have joined the Hare Krishna movement as they can do chanting and service there in exchange for food and sometimes board. With the cover of spirituality and religiosity, they come to Vrindavan, show themselves as devotees and soon find another quick and easy way to earn money: prostitution.
We have heard from local people that this is the situation of many female devotees. Some rich Indian people who are looking for paid sex like women with fair skin and don't mind to pay a bit more for having sex with foreigners. And many guesthouses and Ashrams are available on rent to provide place for some hours for a low amount of rupees.
You can have really funny conversations with such devotees. Ask them what they do.
'I do Bhakti', which means as much as doing service or having devotion.
But what do you live from, how do you survive?
'The universe provides!'
So which activities does this Bhakti include?
'We are doing social work'.
Okay, social work! And of what kind?
'We just try to make others happy and fulfill their wishes'.
It is really a virtue, wanting to keep others happy. And if you earn some money by fulfilling other peoples' wishes, everybody is happy!
It is not any wonder that the sect tells everybody to cut their ties with their family and friends because they might oppose such a development of one of their loved ones.
Unfortunately this is what is going on now in our Vrindavan. It is sad to see but it is what is connected with sects such as this one. And there are several organizations with different names but the same rules. They are founded by former members of ISKCON who either did not like the bad name ISKCON got with all their 'social work' or who became ambitious and wanted to be a Guru of their own with their own sect. They are like small ISKCON groups with the same principles, only with different names and Gurus.
I can only warn people of joining this sect and advise everyone to stay away from any organization similar to this one.
11. Now we arrive at the crux of this posting: a flurry of emails between cult members which demonstrate how the 'child marriage' system was misconstrued by acBSp (his vaisnav sect) and presented as 'tradition' to accommodate CSA. It will show cult disregard for the laws of the land and a resolute determination to continue practicing child exploitation, outlawed in every advanced country on the planet. 
12. Before going into detail our readers should be made aware-  Iskcon is owned by the GBC.  Dissenters have protested for years in the belief they may succeed with their own idea as to what is best for the cult in motion.  These attempts have produced a few recognized 'vehicles of protest' i.e., the guru issue or ritvik issue, book changes, poison issue, Hinduization, and the Direction of Management (DOM).  This post looks at the driver of the DOM vehicle, not because we see him to be of any significance, but because he is the proponent pushing the crime of child exploitation as seen in the loop below.  But first....
13. Nathan Zakheim (aka. Nara Narayan Visvakarma (NNViagra) dasa, American) as his legal name suggests, is what cultists refer to as a JBD- Jewish Bodied Devotee, one of legion within Iskcon.  He first came to attention when his 'golden bodied' guru (acBSp) with his 'golden eye' espied NNV dragging his first wife by the hair through the mud in Mayapur (he has run through a few wives since then, and at least one abortion.  Quite a macho achievement for an old fossil who looks like an escaped garden gnome.)  With his 'golden tongue' the 'golden bodied guru' made a 'golden statement.'  He said: "That fellow is crazy."  If there is any agreement between BIF and acBSp...it's in that statement. 

  Mr ConDOM

14. Zakheim bounced around the cult as a 'senior acBSp disciple' for a long while without recognition or his own vehicle of protest.  Then he chop shopped the DOM.  Everyone knows the DOM is a deadhead dictate...a no brainer...just another lemon designed by acBSp who was interested only in his own agenda...giving a bugger for anyone else (so they poisoned him?)  It is why iskcon remains a dog's breakfast, even today.  Anyhow, BIF did approach the GBC in '98 and asked why the DOM was not accepted as an acBSp directive.  We were told the DOM was put in practice but presented too many complications so it was discontinued.  Whether this is true or not the GBC is boss and possession is nine tenths the law.  Case closed.  So why does Zakheim persist in driving a dead DOM?  Observers have concluded Zakheim's posturing has nothing to to do with the DOM.  Instead they see the old fossil's saber-rattling as a ploy to con his young wife into viewing him as a virile crusader.  A commonly shared perception has labeled Zakheim's DOM-  a con, or "ConDOM."  Okay. Let's take a look at the thread this lecher is spinning to his loop, its strings and substrings.
From: Nathan Zakheim
Sent: Monday, October 08, 2012 9:34 AM
Srimukunda dasa
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Subject: Re: None Dare Call it a Yadu-Jew [cock]roach Sambradaya Eclipse ie Rahu Consp...

Sri Mukunda das,
You have listened to the atheistic Arya Samaj propaganda which has poisoned Saksi Gopal and Shayamasundhara, both of whom are persons of personally very low character.<<
15. BIF: If Sakshi is guilty of ANYTHING illegal or immoral post the PROOF (with reference) so it can be confirmed.  Put up or SHUT-UP!!  
Now, according to the Overview of World Religions (OWR): iskcon officially claims around 3,000 full-time members worldwide with an additional 200,000 'congregational' members and approximately 300,000 sympathizers within the Hindu community.  Conversely the Arya Samaj (AS) has ten million followers outside India.  In India the AS membership is uncountable.  If the AS is poisoning people it must be with love.  The Ram Krishna Mission members also run into millions.  Attempts to count followers of Shirdi Sai Baba have been abandoned because there are too many worldwide.  Approximately 5, 000 cults recruit 180, 000 followers per annum in America alone.  Iskcon is not even a piddle-puddle in the cult ocean, yet these pedophiles and powder-puffs pass the most irreligious methane gas.  Anyway, the AS is too advanced Vedically and academically for ex. iskcon cultists to find a spare chair at the table.  So, unfortunately, both Sakshi and Shyamasundar would fail in any attempt at securing a vial of AS 'propaganda poison'.....unlike Iskcon poison which drips from every hole in the cult. 

AS launch, Toronto- early 20th century

>>(Traveling with Shayamasundhar and his wife, I personally witnessed the two of them trying to seduce an innocent young woman for illicit "three way sex". Fortunately, I was able to intervene, and their plot was foiled.....(In addition, the close friendship that I had shared with Shayamasundhara was permanently severed from that time on.<<
16. The BIF team has known Shayamsundar and his wife for more than two decades.  He has never once spoken abusively, used a slang word, or discussed sex in our presence.  Shyamasundar has never come out in defense of the nonsense.  But we have seen enough of NNViagra's vomit.  Time to grind the gnome:- 
The 'innocent young woman' NNV refers to is now his wife # 5/6/7...8?  So who was doing the seducing?  His 'innocent young woman' told BIF associates what really happened:- NNV entered her bedroom (he, a man nearly 70 years of age) threw her on the bed and sexually violated her.  He convinced her it was 'ksatraya style'... he then ran to his bottle of viagra for a reload (NNViagra!!)  After the bedroom romp he convinced her, under the circumstances, it was 'Vedic' to get married.  In a devious attempt to pre-empt the truth surfacing, NNV started the rumor about a 'threesome' proposition, just incase Shyamasundar made the episode public.... It would appear as retaliation rather than revelation.  He has now compromised the 'innocent young woman'  beyond all decency.  If she had half her dignity remaining, she would come out and speak the truth, at least about the 'threesome' nonsense.  We aint holding our breath.  Let's move on....
>>So, out of ignorance, you are finding "fault with the Uttama Adhikari who is completely transcendental, and you are siding with "three way sex" Shayamasundhar das!....Is that your improvement?<<
17. Uttma Adhikari who is completely transcendental...who the hell is that?  Do you mean the iskcon cult founder- Prabhupada (acBSp)?  Our own observations suggest acBSp was a man with frontal lobe dysfunction; struggling to differentiate between sexual objects...women from little girls.  He should have been diagnosed and treated with Depo-Provera early in his boyhood.  It would have made him a pakka sadhu rather than the sex-dried sannyasi that he was.  Furthermore, he made statements like....men can train pigeons to carry them into outer space....the sun revolves around the planets hurtling through the sky at 16,104 miles per nano second....giant eagles fly between planets laying giant eggs that hatch as they fall through space.  He also said dinosaurs never existed....there is a tribe in Africa who eat their grandfathers...man did not go to the moon....black men should have remained slaves...girls like to be raped...everybody is licking vaginas...single women are prostitutes...women are nine times more lusty than men....women are lesser than men because they have half the brain....girls keep big dogs for sex...etc. etc. etc.  Okay, we get it...Uttma Adhikari evidentially translates as....Ultra  Asinine.
 >>I can understand your concern (to the point of panic) on the issue of child molestation. You were molested, your daughter was molested, Puranjan was molested, and Yasodanandana was molested, Tatva Darshan was molested, and that is understandably a very deep issue with you, as it should be.<<
18. For us to even entertain the above statement as possibility we must believe NNV to have accessed personal psychiatric files on the names mentioned.  Or is he more than just your everyday garden gnome....A Jewish Catholic priest perhaps who runs a confessional for Iskcon cultists?  Or did the people named by NNV make public confessions?  Why doesn't he reference his source?  Or is it easier to recognize a compulsive liar (once again) attempting to publicly embarrass his perceived opposition?  NNV claims to be a 1969 initiate of acBSp.  Forty-three years and what do you get?  That is why BIF reiterates- "The gaudily vaisnava system is bogus...the chanting does not work...it has NEVER produced one recognizable ANYBODY (in 8 hundred years) outside lunatics, liars, rip-offs and propagandists."  Iskcon is the continuing abomination of an old cult scam that has raped, robbed and ransacked unwary Indians for centuries.  It was recognized by Indian exemplars and exposed as such.  In the last half-century the scam was slime-balled from India by acBSp, reinvented and registered in the west with one change...a Jewish/American administration.  Indians remain the prime target. 
>>It is a fact that a disproportionate percentage of the Iskcon membership of the mid 1970's to the early 1990's were incest survivors or had been sexually molested in various other ways. In the bogus attempt to reconcile with the Gurukulies in Florida some years ago, many of the Iskcon "leaders" came forward with "tears in their eyes" to confess that THEY TOO had been molested in their childhood.
Women who were incest survivors flocked to Iskcon during those years, as the "rules against illicit sex" attracted them to the hope that they would never be "sexually abused" ever again. Men who were  molested by other men when they were young boys, also flocked to Iskcon so that they could "be celibate" and by that means, artificially "control" their horrific urges to molest children.<<
19. We request our Indian Governors to recognize what is being openly disclosed above, and by an iskcon cultist not associated with BIF.  It reveals the cult's infrastructure to be damaged and dangerous, just what BIF has been saying all along.  Take it a step further in diagnosis and what we get is... the recruitment and promotion of mentally sick individuals into administration of an institution lacking medical acumen, staff, or hospice.  When the core itself is fractured; suffering CSA repression, and then being indoctrinated to believe god enjoyed sex with 8/10 year old girls and by a guru who says when the girl is 12 that is very late marriage.... how can a prior victim in the grip of such a cult be expected to address CSA from a rational perspective?  The cult's prescribed mantra panacea is nothing more than a placebo in treatment of ANY abyssal complexity.  It is why CSA crime (all crime) within the cult remains repressed...like the memories of its administrators, creating an incubator for socio/psychopaths, pathological liars, lunatics, and serial CSA.  
In support of the NNV/acBSp viewpoint, a few cultist strung onto the thread with abuse and verbal base' bats.  Here's one e.g.
---------- Forwarded Message ----------
From: "Padmagarbha dasa" <
Subject: Re: cult antics
Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2012 17:03:02 GMT

>>Why is anybody still responding to this vile creature, and thereby allowing it to continue  spewing blasphemies.  Does any body really belief that they can change it's mind, that they can 'save' this creature?
You are 'throwing pearls before a swine'!  This creature is too stupid and too offensive to have a discussion with! 
According to recent statistics the average age for an  American girl to start regularly engaging in sexual intercourse is 13 years old, and 11, and 12 being quite common.  According to this buffoon, becoming a whore at this age, and likely an unwed mother,  as well as risking getting a venereal disease [epidemic amongst today's youth], is better than being married and chaste to just one man.      pg<<

BIF: New Delhi, Oct 11, 2012 (IANS) "Today, Oct 11, is the UN's first International Day of the Girl Child. For its first observance, this year's day focuses on child marriage, which is a fundamental human rights violation and impacts all aspects of a girl's life."

"Child marriage is not a solution to protecting girls from sexual crimes including rape. In fact, child marriage denies a girl of her childhood, disrupts her education, limits her opportunities, increases her risk to be a victim of violence, jeopardizes her health and, therefore, constitutes an obstacle to the achievement of nearly every Millennium Development Goal and the development of healthy communities," the letter stressed.

"There is an urgent need to raise awareness on the negative consequences of child marriage for girls and for society as a whole, " the letter said, adding the UN "re-affirms its commitment to working hand in hand with the Government of India to deliver a multi sectoral response to addressing child marriage, including strengthening law enforcement, investing in the education of girls and giving them skills to become economically empowered."

The letter was jointly signed by Frederika Meijer, Country Representative, UN Population Fund (UNFPA); Louis-Georges Arsenault, representative, United Nations Children's Fund (UNICEF); Anne Stenhammer, Regional Programme Director, UN Women, South Asia Sub Regional Office; and Kiran Mehra-Kerpelman, Director, UN Information Centre for India and Bhutan.

20. Pg, in his abusive stumble to support a cultist who has run through wives like Henry VIII, fails to note two significant facts- a) Being married and chaste to just one man in the iskcon cult is another Hare hallucination- b) Legislated laws already exist in America, and the law says-  The LEGAL AGE of CONSENT across the United States of America (yes, girls are protected) has been set between SIXTEEN and EIGHTEEN years of age.  Violation of the statute is punishable under-Child Sexual Abuse (CSA), statutory rape, carnal knowledge of a minor, and corruption of a minor. 

NOTE:  Statutory rape is considered equivalent to rape, both in severity and sentencing.  Statutory rape laws are based on the premise that until a person reaches a certain age, that individual is legally incapable of consenting to sexual intercourse. Thus, the law assumes, even if he or she willingly engages in sexual intercourse, the sex is not consensual.  In understanding these laws, it is not girls that need worry but CSA' and misogynistic cultist....at the proposition of being a Lifer's bitch.
21. Almost totally...across the board, practicing cultists demonstrate disregard for legislation outside cult belief.  Iskcon cult canon (law?) was dictated by a sex-dried-child-banging Bengali who had lost touch with reality a long, long time ago.  As shown in paragraph # 17, acBSp demonstrates schizoaffective disorders, which, when tallied with other violent outbursts HERE reveals psychotic undertones, tactile hallucinations, delusions, and catatonic behavior bordering on anti-social negative views of all outside influences: asociality, possibly stemming from a persecutory complex.  BOTTOM LINE: we give a rat's butt where iskcon cultists get their 'American girls like sex' data.  Our only respect is for The Law and for the shelter it provides Indian families victimized by the cult.
In stretching the thread, Zakheim demonstrates criminal intent by persistence in his caveman credo and disregard for sui juris.
>>3. What is wrong with the Vedic Astrological practice of a person marrying his wife when she is six years old?...You are an idiot if you are assuming that marrying a six year old girl equals having sex with an six year old girl!<<
22. Astrology is cult quackery; a non liquet channel for chicanery now reduced to practice on sidewalks by performing parrots and cult calculators. 
Buddha:- "Those that get a living by calculation of the stars by such art and other lying tricks are to be avoided"
Swami Vivekananda:-  "Excessive attention to the minutiae of astrology is one of the superstitions which has hurt the Hindus very much.  I think the Greeks first took astrology to India and took from the Hindus the science of astronomy and carried it back with them to Europe." 
BIF:- Astrology is bullshit.
>>4. Do you consider millions of Bengali men to be "pedophiles"?<<
23. Millions of Bengali men...pedophiles???  acBSp piped his hedonistic followers into a cave by blowing notes from vaisnav erotica.  This writer is Bengali born and raised.  We have never witnessed a single 'child marriage' in Bengal.  Yes, marriages are arranged but only when offspring have reached an age of maturity both academically and intellectually.  Marriage is an option only after career goals are set.  Besides, the Legal Age of Consent in India is EIGHTEEN!!!  Girls are now safely out of reach of  'is she bleeding yet?'  baby rapist. The idea behind such a law is to give girls the RIGHT TO CHOOSE!!!  A right that is inconceivable to cultists who think women are half-brained, nine-times-more-lusty whores who keep dogs for sex.   In short, a slave-hole deposit for cult sperm.  However, humanity is awaking to the corkscrews in cultism.  While such depraved inbreds swing their gender clubs in demigod demagoguery the world gives vote to women in administration government and legislature. 
>>What exactly is  "wrong" with a girl marrying at the age of six years old?...You say it is "wrong" but you have no authority to back up your statement. SIMPLY PUT...."WHY ARE YOU SO SURE THAT THIS IS "WRONG"? (The stipulation is that no girl will be given to the custody of her husband until she has reached puberty....If a man marries a six year old girl...then he will not live under the same roof with her until she is 13?, 14? 15? years of age.
24.  YES WE DO!!  And so do Governments and citizens of the Free World.  As per our paragraph # 20, you, your guru, and your cult, are involved in the rape of minors and in violation of Legal Statutes....Ignorantia Juris non excusat.  Just incase Mr. Viagra is mentally debating the Legal Age of Consent Law as singularly American, and, since he has claimed we have ..no authority to back up the statement... here is the authority:  
Child Marriage Restraint Act, also called the Sarda Act, was a law to restrict the practice of child marriage. It was enacted on April 1, 1930, extended across the whole nation, with the exceptions of the states of Jammu and Kashmir, and applied to every Indian citizen. Its goal was to eliminate the dangers placed on young girls who could not handle the stress of married life and avoid early deaths. This Act defined a male child as 21 years or younger, a female child as 18 years or younger, and a minor as a child of either sex 18 years or younger.  

FYI. The criminal offense of statutory rape is committed when an adult sexually penetrates a person who, under the law, is incapable of consenting to sex. Minors and physically and mentally incapacitated persons are deemed incapable of consenting to sex under rape statutes in all states. These persons are considered deserving of special protection because they are especially vulnerable due to their youth or condition.

Most legislatures include statutory rape provisions in statutes that punish a number of different types of sexual assault. Statutory rape is different from other types of rape in that force and lack of consent are not necessary for conviction. A defendant may be convicted of statutory rape even if the complainant explicitly consented to the sexual contact and no force was used by the actor. By contrast, other rape generally occurs when a person overcomes another person by force and without the person's consent.

25. From an humanitarian perspective, the case in point is not marriage but an educated right to choose whether or not being shackled to a man, his bed, and his cult, is a viable prospect.  Prabhupada: Every woman especially must get married....[...]...Similarly, woman. If you become lenient, then she will be troublesome. So in India still, in villages, whenever there is some quarrel between husband wife, the husband beats and she is tamed. (laughs.)  No modern girl will fall for this bullshit.  So the cult has already begun to inbreed... Hridayananda (guru): "From a socialistic perspective, it shows some of the....how should I put it?....It shows some of the isolation and cultural in-breeding."  Bir Krsna (guru): "Yes, an incestuous society." 
>>What is NOT Vedic about child marriage? (It seems to me that you have been influenced by that seven foot tall "goofball" Prakasanand Saraswati.....That's it...no?)<<
26. What IS Vedic about child marriage?  Which Veda did your galloping guru say recommends child marriage?  There is none.  Your guru never read the Vedas.  He admitted it on record before his death.  He came out with some of the most outrageous fiction ever heard and attributed it to the Vedas, but because his followers had no idea what their Uttma Adhakari (another vaisnav concoction) was on about, they lapped up the pee with the parampara (another vaisnav concoction).  

prakashanand saraswati

Now, regards the seven foot tall "goofball" Prakasanand Saraswati, sorry Viagra, he's one of yours:- " Swami Prakashanand Saraswati was of the lineage of the great Vashnavite sage of West Bengal Chaitanya Mahaprabhu (1486?1533).  Prakasanand Saraswati founded Radha Madhav Dham in the United States. He is a convicted felon for 20 counts of indecency with a child. He jumped bail and is a fugitive wanted by US MarshalsJust another vaisnav gopi-groper...Eh?
>>The Arya Samaj has been  in existence for over a hundred years, yet they have NEVER brought the Vedic religion overseas to the USA or Europe.....They are simply politicians who use "women's rights" "Dalit's rights" etc to promote their political platform.<<
27. A pendulum swing off topic... common to Jewish garden gnomes.  Okay let's deal with it.
The Arya Samaj, as pointed out earlier, has a presence of ten million members outside India.  There are offices in just about every state in the U.S., but the gnome will need to get his head out from under women's skirts to notice (acBSp: "You require vagina; take one vagina. Be satisfied. And lick it."  NNV heard him say-LICK EIGHT!!)  Representatives of the Vedas are not evangelical like iskcon which was influenced by Bhaktivinod's experience with Catholicism and missionary associations.  Nonetheless, every Indian cult, creed and ism, is bigger than iskcon and expanding: building schools, hospitals and legal enterprises.  Iskcon, on the other hand, has more begging centers than beggars.  It does nothing but suck while the curse of crime compels them to hack and slash each other to hell. 
>>These "so called sadhus" have done NOTHING for India, and India has gone to hell under their "watchful" eyes. What have they done to prevent Cow Slaughter? Sex outside of marriage? Honesty in Indian politics (!)? They have sat on their "so-called" celibate "hind ends" and smugly watched India go to hell before their eyes.<< 
28. India...gone to hell???  NNV's life as a short-ass garden gnome prevented him seeing over the fence.  After he escaped, instead of looking around at facts, he stuck his head where the cult monkey hides his celibate banana.  Finally he has merged, signing letters as Roupa Manjari devi dasi. 
As for the cow slaughter issue...currently a total ban has been imposed in ten Indian states and under consideration in others.  Sex outside marriage...the Legal Age of Consent is Eighteen.  That's better than America.  Honesty in Indian politics is as honest as politics anywhere.  But...but..but WHERE THE HELL IS iskcon in the frontline of protest?  These great international champions of child marriage, donation dharma and dogma, have not raised a squeak in their own country (not one whisper in an economy running on the blood of cows.)  In India iskcon does not protest...they beg.  Fighting for reform is done by real men...never by child abusers, rapists, and wrinkly old codgers obsessed with jumping the bones of young women.  Repulsive and disgraceful.
>>What SP has done is A MILLION TIMES more spiritually potent than anything the Arya Samaj has done (or tried to do). There are materialistic political demons attacking SP.<<
29. Not a single exemplar has emerged from SP's spiritual potency....Several criminals have.  Iskcon's greatest star is Radhanath.  What does that say?  Iskcon, unless you are a croaker in the cult well, is a denominational joke.  A quick calculation of SP's million times potency vs. the Arya Samaj (membership outside India, alone) would be a million times multiplied by ten million.  But iskcon has NEVER reached the ONE MILLION followers mark in half a century of offering little girls and hairy backsides for sex !! (???)  The only spotlight on iskcon comes from- "10 Most Dangerous Cults."  Had this American organization not pretended to be Hindu it would have disappeared years ago.  Materialistic political demons...or even the pixies down the end of the garden cannot attack SP.  He is as dead as a dodo.  Get over it, already.  The cult will soon follow and by its own bloody intent.  Meanwhile, we sit, sip pina colada, and watch the Hari' do Hari Kari. 

Mr Cult Froggy

 >>Being in a male's body, you obviously know nothing of puberty in women. The fact is women begin looking for mates as early as age 6. But we Americans would rather pretend that this is not so, delude women into prostituting away their reproductive years while trying to hack it in the work world, and then attempting to "settle down" when they have wrinkles and poor health at 35 and then have children from broken homes with behavioral and psychiatric disorders. What a wonderful culture we live in.<<
30. How crazy is crazy?  And screaming hypocrisy when coming from a man who exploited several women and aborted his own offspring.  Anyhow, whenever NNViagra das decides to celebrate child marriage be sure to let us know.  If he or his acBSp cluster attempt it in India... they had better not pick up the soap in the shower or they will leave jail with a head full of bad memories.  Now there's an incentive for iskcon's cream-puffs.  Just in closing...
>>acBSp: "I was married, my wife was eleven years. I was 22 years. She did not know what is sex, eleven years' girl.....[...]...Formerly, when I was married, my wife was eleven years old. So (laughing) an eleven years old girl and I was at the same time twenty-one, twenty-two. One day I captured her hand. She began to cry. A little girl, you see? So gradually, gradually."
31. We don't know where he put her hand but we sure as hell know where his head was at.  To produce further evidence of actus reus agents would need to hide under the bed and listen to the squeaking.  However, we have shown mens rea (#6) the child was handworked and homeworked by the 'pure devotee'.  Then he tells us his child bride was everything a wife was expected to be...but there was something missing.  He was not happy.  His solution:- get another wife.  Yeah.  The gnome can relate to that.  Wonder what triggered his 'pure' dissatisfaction...Any guesses?...Hmmm? 


 acBSp: "So after being married, I did not like my wife. (laughter) Somehow or other, I did not like. I must say she is very faithful, very everything... Everyone praised. But I did not like, somehow or other. So I was preparing for next marriage. Next marriage. Because in India, at that time it was allowed, a man can marry more than one wife. Now the law is there."
Yes the LAW is there.  Thank God and Indian governance for that mercy.  Just an observation...notice how acBSp talks kitchari but writes filet mignon.  He didn't write those 'Law Books for the next 10,000 years,' did he?  C'mon now.  Quit joshing.
Below we post substrings to the Zakheim thread:
>>How can cult Neanderthals expect sexual subservience from women with a '34 ounce brain' when the gentler sex are proving more adept; demonstrating universally the ability to govern nations, and, as here proffered by Jemima, to identify cult crafted 'socialism' offered by a misogynistic sect to enslave and exploit ?
>>So here you have it, Roupa Manjari is a perfect example of how the cult replaces your rational thinking with insanity. Roupa says she would gladly turn her 11 year old over to a 22 year old man for sex if her 11 year old is menstruating and her astrology chart says to. In fact she is convinced a 6 year old is looking for a mate and sex. But of course Prabhupada says "11 years old girl doesn't know what is sex" but Prabhupada, because he did his 'wife' when she was 11, he has set the example and all devotees will never say he was wrong for doing his 11 year old wife. They will excuse it as 'customary at the time.'
>>Hare Krishna devotees always mention how Prabhupada is not held to society's customs. That he is 'transcendental'. We don't conform to society, we want society to conform to us, is a statement attributed to Prabhupada.
>>Prabhupada, as a pure devotee, could have refused his child bride, taken the 'transcendental' path, set the example that the acarya does not marry children, even if society says it's okay. But this he did not do. He set the example for all of ISKCON. Little girls make good wives.
>>So, the emphasis is on 'menstruation' rather than the legal age of consent. Hmmm... Excuse the mental imagery, can't help wondering how it stands should a 4/5 year-old sit in tomato sauce at Iskcon's Sunday 'Love Feast' ?  Anyhow, it appears that NNViagra's daughter will make an appearance on the auction block soon.... with or without the ketchup.
>>Roupa says it is a FACT 6 year old girls are looking for a mate and sex. Where did she get this fact? What studies have shown this and how did they do this study? what 6 year old girls were studied for these FACTS? Who did this study? Where are the results published, what science and medical journal? Where is this info? Oh yeah, it's in her head.
>>Poor poor children! My heart is breaking just to think of what these poor 5-year-olds must have experienced. I myself remember crying my head off at the age of 5 or 6 when I was left by my mother in a kindergarden just for half a day. The kindergarden was just across the street from my home, and my mother left me there just for a few hours a day and I was still so unhappy being separated from my mother that I would not stop crying. I guess my mom wasn't very happy either and that was a regular kindergarden, definitely without any misty-eyed fanatics, child abusers and sexual predators. Now imagine if they had left me ' a five-year-old ' in a gurukula with all these horrible cult monsters. And morever do that with a happy smile and light heart, because 'Prabhupada told' that they are doing the right thing!
>>It is horrible to think how sick a human being can become as a result of this brainwashing that even a mother would with an easy hand leave her own child in those horrible 'schools!'
>>There is nothing more definitive of socio/psychopathic behavior than a lack of empathy:
acBSp: "If you take charge of the children of our devotees and give them nice education strictly on Krishna Consciousness principles, it will be a great help to the preachers (who street-peddled his books) just like our six students, husbands and wives, who are preaching in London. One of them has got a child and as soon as she is at least TWO YEARS OLD, she may be sent under your care." http://mysite.verizon.net/vze4x2q7/id5.html
>>"Being in a male's body, you obviously know nothing of puberty in women. The fact is women begin looking for mates as early as age 6." Roupa Manjari devi dasi Zakheim
This comment is just pedo talk. As for the comment being from Roupa Manjari, people have told me that Roupa Manjari's husband (NNV) writes under his wife's name. He is an elderly man with a wife old enough to be his daughter. Had she found her mate NNV at 6 years old he would have been in his fifties.
>>There is no philosophy more alluring or conducive to pedophilia than propagated by the iskcon institution.

Maalish Maharaj
Finally we present the shenanigans being enacted by yet another branch of the vaisnav sect (Narayan Maharaj' (late) gaudiya enterprise.) This group is also a potentially explosive mix of foreigners and Indians based and operating out of India.

BV Tirtha Maharaj

"Anyway, re the Narayana camp, they have had a whole big scandal regarding one of their "Sinyassis" (spelling in correction intended)
He was performing an "exorcism" (like, since when do they do that kinda shit) on 2 YOUNG sisters, they were naked, and he started massaging their bodies with oil and put his fingers in their privates. They are still deciding on what to do with the filthy bastard (yeah, like you need to decide, the logical and best thing to do is strip him of all authority and title, and hand him over to the police and let them deal with the piece of shit) There was all sorts of wild rumors going around (all of which are probably true) so one of their other "sinyassis" took it upon himself to write a public letter on FB. It reads as follows:
16th Oct. 2012.
Dear Maharajas, Prabhus and Didis, please accept my dandavat pranams.
All glories to Sri Guru and Sri Gauranga!
An increasing number of devotees in our sanga are becoming aware that our dear BV Tirtha Maharaja was involved in an unfortunate incident about a month ago in Europe. Most of our sannyasis are presently preaching all over the world, so there has been no opportunity to collectively discuss the situation in a formal manner. Therefore, as yet, no resolutions have been passed and no official communication has been issued. A meeting has been scheduled for 25th October in Vrindavan. This has left room in the meantime for all kinds of speculation and wild rumors; arguments are being exchanged, unfortunately along with offenses. On the Internet recently, so much has been said. I therefore feel compelled to write this letter, in order to help clarify the situation. This is not an official paper.
Besides his wonderful qualities and outstanding service, our BV Tirtha Maharaja seems to be afflicted with a weakness which, unfortunately, has caused him difficulty in the past. Some years ago, Srila Gurudeva dealt personally with the situation and commented that 'the witch of wanting to touch a woman's body has been following him for a long time.'
Unfortunately Maharaja's weakness has again manifested. In the process of exorcising one young woman from ghosts, he proceeded to massage both her and her sister's naked bodies with oil and touched them in very inappropriate ways. They froze in shock and passively allowed him to continue believing this was part of the exorcism.
These two girls are now traumatized because they had faith and respect in him as a spiritual authority. They are Srila Gurudeva's daughters and naturally deserve and expect justice and respect.
After denying it at first - accusing both the girls and his personal servant of lying and claiming himself to be a victim of politics - Maharaja finally admitted his misbehavior, and asked for help. He then shortened his tour and flew back to India, wherefrom he wrote a letter of apology to the two young ladies and their family.
This time, Srila Gurudeva is not physically here to deal with this painful situation. All the senior devotees are so sorry and concerned, and we wish to address this issue in the best interests of everyone involved, included our BV Tirtha Maharaja. The Gita verse api cet suduracaro is of course in everyone's mind. But what are the repercussions of his fall-down for the sanga at large, for his disciples, and for the conduct of the upcoming Vrajamandala parikrama? All this has only been discussed in informal meetings or private conversations by various senior devotees, and will be thoroughly addressed in the meeting on the 25th.
I am therefore begging everyone to avoid speculating, spreading rumors, or becoming involved in making or hearing offensive accusations. After the meeting on the 25th
(Oct. 2012)
 an official paper will be released. If anything I have written hurts your feelings and convictions, please forgive me.
BV Suddhadvaiti.
Here below is the connected thread; gooey with the usual sentiments, patronage, and cult drivel:
Srila Dasa Thank you Maharaja, for this sad and shocking news. It would have been preferable to keep things more discreet, but once "the cat is out of the bag," it is too late to curtail the rumor-mongering. Better then to just be straightforward, as difficult as that is. I trust your judgment to disclose this matter as you have. But we remain a family, and our mutual affection for one another and dedication to Sri Guru is what will keep us together to weather this storm and overcome our dismay.
  • Radha Dasi Dandavat pranam Maharaj,
    Jai Sri Sri Guru and Guaranga!!!
    I hope your preaching is going well.
    Please forgive me for any offenses I make, I am just an ignorant materialist, completely fallen soul...
    I humbly suggest that the details be left out (oil message, naked, etc), it just doesn't seem necessary to describe such details...its disturbing to the mind, and seems to be appropriate uddipan to commit aparad and for mental masturbation...i am not for or against the publication of this letter, this is your free will and right to express yourself, I only just humbly request that you edit the explicit details out for the welfare of any readers...when I think of Nitya lila pravista Om Sri Srimad Bhakti Promod Puri Godwami Maharaj, Sri Srimad Bhakti Sri-rupa Siddhanti Gosvami Maharaj, and our Srila Prabhupada and Srila Gurudeva's harikatha that i have heard or read, i just cant fathom that they would condone such description.
    Once again please forgive me for any offense I may have made in this comment, my intention is not ill, I have so much respect for you and admiration for your preaching and Guruseva.
    aspiring to serve Sri Hari, Guru, and Vaishnavas,
    Radha dasi
  • Sashi Lua thanks Maharaj, the truth and always ... always welcome!
  • Shamapriya Devi Dasi Would Srila Gurudev approve of this method tho. THis is what Prem did and Bhakti sar Maharaj and look what became of them!! Please consider what you are doing here, and if GUrudev would want this. It may or may not be true, but NOT LIKE THIS PLEEEEEZ!
  • Pankaj Vashisth Main problem Gurudev had with Prem and Sar last time was that they openly wrote these things, Which sanyasis are beyond fault really. Some are intersted in women, some in Money and some want Fame, Sridhar maharaja said that it is important that faith of new devotees should not be attached. What happened behind close door was horrible and bad but what is going on outside these doors is even worse. Its a very western Mindset which is cause of all the problems, A bazaar mentatily - people think that if we make more noise we are right or doing right. If we are pointing one fingure outward 3 are coming back at us. So stop
  • Yashoda Devi Dasi I have full faith that the result of this case will be advancement of all of us. That Srila Gurudeva is watching and he is making sure we will know how to solve it in the best possible way. UNDERSTANDING, FORGIVING, REPEATING THE CLASS WE FAILED AND TRYING AGAIN.
  • Yashoda Devi Dasi So actually there is no big news. We have instructions given to us by our acarys and we have cases in our history so we know what to do. Hare Krishna Hare Krishna! Radhe, Radhe!
    All glories to Vaisnava devotees who are giving their lives to Srila Gurudeva's mission!!!
  • Shamapriya Devi Dasi Pankaj, you can not blame the western mindset for everything in life, it was afterall and Indian devotee who posted all the apharad against TM in the first place!
  • Rodolfo Pinto "If I were to desist from lecturing about the Absolute Truth due to being fearful that some listeners may be displeased, I would be deviating from the path of Vedic truth and accepting the path of untruth. I would become one who is inimical to the Vedas, an atheist, and would no longer possess faith in Bhagavan, the very embodiment of Truth."
    Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Saraswati Thakura Prabhupada
    October 17 at 2:32pm · 1
  • Ram-Chandra Das thank you Maharaj, Finally you are really taking care of Srila Gurudeva's children by providing some information which has caused confused many devotees around the world.
    With that we conclude.  BIF has little doubt the NNViagra gnome will jump up and down.. the way nutty, short-ass gnomes and hobbits do to impress tall folk....and wives.  But he will find no satisfaction here.  We fry two cult nuts a year.  Our quota is filled.  NNV is yesterday's collateral damage.  He should feel lucky we noticed him there in the tall grass.
    Thanks for spending time with us